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Microsoft has discontinued the Kinect.


  • Tech Staff

    It seems that after seven years of awesome, Microsoft has decided to discontinue manufacturing the Kinect.

    Many of us were still working with the original Kinect 1 devices, which have been long discontinued.

    See this article for more details.

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/...

    The Kinect was a hugely important device for me as an artist, and really defined a lot of my work -- and led to a lot of amazing collaborations over the years. Sad to see it die, though there will certainly be a long afterlife as we continue to find ways to use these devices in new work.

    Remember, for anyone interested in using these devices in your work that doesn't own one yet, before you go to the Internet, check your local used video game shop. Often, Kinects are found in bargain bins for super cheap. I got a bunch of Kinect 1 devices a few years ago for $20 Canadian each at a local GameStop. 



  • Sadly the adapter that is required to make the Kinect V2 work is not found in the regular game shop.. :( 



  • @Juriaan - it is in Finland - I got my last one from an electronics store - cheaper and quicker than ebay.


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    @Juriaan

    Still available from Amazon.... I just bought a spare!



  • Hi,

    It has been suggested to me that the Kinect for xBox 360 has a greater depth tracking range than the Kinect for xBox One, can anyone verify that?

    Also has anyone been able to use the face tracking features of xBox One with Isadora?

    I have just acquired an Kinect for xBox One and have done only preliminary motion capture tests but there does appear to be some improvement in the quality of skeleton tracking over the Kinect 360. Has anyone made a definitive comparison?

    I was thinking a similar way to the article linked in this thread in regard to Apple's release of a depth camera w/ face tracking in the iPhone X device. However, There is at least one major difference and that is the cost, a Kinect goes for a few bucks and the iPhone will be over a thousand and likely to have a much shorter working life. 

    regards

    bonemap


  • Tech Staff

    @bonemap said:

    Hi,
    It has been suggested to me that the Kinect for xBox 360 has a greater depth tracking range than the Kinect for xBox One, can anyone verify that?
    Also has anyone been able to use the face tracking features of xBox One with Isadora?
    I have just acquired an Kinect for xBox One and have done only preliminary motion capture tests but there does appear to be some improvement in the quality of skeleton tracking over the Kinect 360. Has anyone made a definitive comparison?
    I was thinking a similar way to the article linked in this thread in regard to Apple's release of a depth camera w/ face tracking in the iPhone X device. However, There is at least one major difference and that is the cost, a Kinect goes for a few bucks and the iPhone will be over a thousand and likely to have a much shorter working life. 
    regards
    bonemap

     "It has been suggested to me that the Kinect for xBox 360 has a greater depth tracking range than the Kinect for xBox One, can anyone verify that?"

    I had some students ask me about this literally a few days ago. I need to research it. I have never fully researched the tech spec of each device - but I need to. 


  • Tech Staff

    ^ I've sent a few emails to some people who might be able to give me information. 



  • Dear All,

    We are actively investigating the Orbbec line of devices for future support of this kind of thing. @DusX and @Michel have one, and we're going to write a plugin if we find that they work well. We also are also preparing another nice addition to the tracking "toolbox" under developement, but we'll keep little tidbit under wraps until we're sure it's going to actually work. ;-)

    Warm Wishes,
    Mark



  • @Skulpture i got booth kenects and I'm my experience the difference is this: 306 is less precise but start to "feel" human presence deeper. One version start to out put something only when a full and good skeleton is tracked so this means only when the subject is a bit near than 360 version



  • @mark said:

    We are actively investigating the Orbbec line of devices

    Thanks for the advice. It could tip the rest of us into switching to Windows if Mac drivers do not become available ! 😰

    It must be hard to make a call like that as the viability of these devices have a history of being undermined by the big players - Apple buying out PrimeSense and then discontinuing the device is a prime (no pun intended) example. The Kinect coming from a giant like Microsoft felt like a very stable proposition. Which begs the question how can a small company make it work when the larger one (who owns all the development IP) can not?

    cheers

    bonemap



  • @bonemap

    This from a discussion on FB about the topic, from Nick Fox-Gieg who used to be at Google Creative Lab; It's a Kinect v1 clone, started by some ex-MS folks--they're serious." That's encouraging to hear and gives me some hope, as I think Nick knows what he's talking about. They have to be jumping with joy (as a company) that Microsoft killed the Kinnect – it's a great opportunity for them.

    Best,
    M



  • @mark said:

    it's a great opportunity for them

     Agreed.

    cheers

    bonemap


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