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    • bonemap
      bonemap Izzy Guru last edited by bonemap

      Hi, 

      you could build user actors with the Broadcaster and Listener actors that allow you to use custom names for broadcast triggers. That appears to be the general advice on this issue.

      I have seen some discussion about enabling more actors to have customisable naming of inputs and outputs. However, I do not think that this feature request has made it into the next release 2.6.

      Best wishes

      Bonemap 

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        dritter last edited by

        ok, thank you Bonemap

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        • DusX
          DusX Tech Staff last edited by DusX

          you can treat triggers as boolean.  (Which they are).

          1 = trigger

          0 = at rest (no trigger)

          I think a comparator will test a trigger against a value (not at my machine right now)

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          • mark
            mark @DusX last edited by

            @dusx said:

            you can treat triggers as boolean.  (Which they are).

             Well, that's not exactly true. A trigger always sends a '1'... it is the act of transmission that signals the trigger. A trigger will never send a 0. So a comparator won't actually work.

            That said, my tests show you can send triggers through the get/set global values actor. This setup works fine:

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            • DusX
              DusX Tech Staff @mark last edited by

              Oops. I stand corrected. ☺

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                dritter last edited by

                Thank you Mark, the problem I have is that an original pair of Set and Get actors will work, but if these actors are copied and their Set and Get names changed, such as triggertest being changed to triggertest2, the GetGlobal Values actor will not receive.  Please see attached.

                thank you

                Don

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                  dritter last edited by

                  Mark, I just created a patch that sends triggers using Set and Get Values, but if I save and close the patch, it will not send triggers when it is reopened. This is only happening with triggers, but everything is fine with text and numbers.

                  all the best,
                  Don

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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                    Try and enter scene trigger actor. 

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                    • mark
                      mark @dritter last edited by

                      @dritter said:

                      Mark, I just created a patch that sends triggers using Set and Get Values, but if I save and close the patch, it will not send triggers when it is reopened

                       Recreated and fixed for the v2.6 release, which is very soon.

                      Best,
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                      • mark
                        mark @mark last edited by

                        @dritter 

                        Keep this important point in mind: while you can use the Set/Get Global Values actors like a Broadcaster/Listener pair, it's not a super good idea to do so. Every time you change even one value (and that includes the new trigger value), every item in the Set Global Values actor is sent to the any Get Global Values actor in the same scene. If you have a really long list of values, that might become computationally expensive.

                        Best Wishes,
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                        • DusX
                          DusX Tech Staff @mark last edited by DusX

                          @mark

                          Out of curiosity (for my own work) is sending a longish text string rather than numerous values likely to be less costly?

                          The text would be the values as json, so the length is related to the number of values.

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                          • mark
                            mark @DusX last edited by

                            @dusx said:

                            Out of curiosity (for my own work) is sending a longish text string rather than numerous values likely to be less costly?

                            No, it really wouldn't matter. And for most uses it's fine. It's just hooking up something like an Envelope Generator to a Set Global Values with 100 inputs wouldn't be a good idea.

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                              dritter @mark last edited by

                              great, thank you Mark.

                              all the best,
                              Don

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