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    • jhoepffner
      jhoepffner last edited by

      http://www.duration.cc/

      Hello,
      Have you heard about it? It seems a very interesting timeline for Isadora, have a try, it's free! With a RGB actor in Isadora (Mark, any project?), it would make a perfect companion to change colors on time. Give me your advice please.
      All the best, Jacques Hoepffner

      Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
      GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
      MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
      MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
      MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        Yup I seen this on CDM a few days ago.

        It's a handy little tool. 

        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
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        • DusX
          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

          I have been testing it.. seems to work very nicely.

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            PatrickPagano last edited by

            i think this might finally be a CUE solution for linux.

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            • jhoepffner
              jhoepffner last edited by

              Hello,

              Going further with duration, I can send OSC from Duration to Izzy, but not from Izzy to Duration, as to start and stop the timeline. Any one had success with it? Any idea to resolve it?
              Thank you,
              jhoepffner

              Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
              GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
              MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
              MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
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              • DusX
                DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                Wish I could help, but I haven't got that far with it yet.

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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                  The only thing I can see is this (which i'm sure you've read already...) but incase you missed it...

                  Start Playback :_"_Does not have an effect if the project is already playing. If playback started an /duration/info message is triggered"
                  I will have a look and see what I can discover. 

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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                    Nope I can't get the OSC back into Duration either. The DarwinRemote that comes with Duration works fine.

                    I managed to crash Duration when turning the type on OSC transmit off in Isadora.... Maybe that has something to do with it?

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                    • jhoepffner
                      jhoepffner last edited by

                      Hello,

                      I had exactly the same experience, works with DarwinRemote, doesn't works with Isadora and crashes when turning type off…
                      I think it's a problem with OSC tagging, not writed the same manner in the 2 apps. I tried with OSCulator inbetween to relay it, no success.
                      I am presently trying wit OSCSeq, not so easy and powerful, and Iannix, very uneasy and very powerful, I will give you the result.

                      Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                      GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                      MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                      MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                      MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                      • jhoepffner
                        jhoepffner last edited by

                        reHello,

                        I found the bug! Isadora sends the tag plus the info with space, like that:
                        /duration/ play
                        Duration needs no space:
                        /duration/play
                        I just made a little max app who do the trick, that works.
                        I explore the other functions and I will share the result, great possibilities!
                        More later

                        Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                        GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                        MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                        MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                        MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                        • jhoepffner
                          jhoepffner last edited by

                          Hello,

                          Here is the product of my researches. All is working, and Duration make a perfect timeline for Isadora.
                          Give me your advice.

                          Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                          GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                          MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                          MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                          MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                          • jhoepffner
                            jhoepffner last edited by

                            I forget the file da69bd-isadoratoduration.zip

                            Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                            GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                            MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                            MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                            MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              Nice work @jhoepffner!

                              It's a shame there has to be a MAX patch in between but nice to know it is possible!

                              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                              RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                              • jhoepffner
                                jhoepffner last edited by

                                I wrote to the autor of Duration and I will also write to Mark to resolve the problem.

                                I also wrote a little QC patch to obtain color with RGB entry in Isadora (plus alpha value). Un fortunately, QC patches are very processor consuming.
                                All is now available in my new github repository (just discovering the service)
                                https://github.com/jhoepffner/DurationToIsadora

                                Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                                GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                                MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                                MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                                MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                                • bruper
                                  bruper last edited by

                                  I've being searching for something that would enable me to go to the middle of an Izzy scene for fine tuning dancers movement sincronized with lights and all the whistle and bells... Is this the (best) way to go?

                                  17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                                  • jhoepffner
                                    jhoepffner last edited by

                                    I really dont understand your will, what is the "middle" of an Izzy scene, time? space? Its the light synchronised with movement or the reverse? how linked? who ring the bells and who whistle?

                                    Be more specific!
                                    What I am working at the moment is to slave some events in Isadora from Duration and some events in Duration from Isadora, no more.
                                    All the best

                                    Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                                    GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                                    MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                                    MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                                    MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                                    • DusX
                                      DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                      Glad you are having some luck with it. I will try to do the same on windows in the coming days.

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                                      • mark
                                        mark last edited by

                                        Dear Jacques,

                                        Isadora's OSC Transmit actor is doing what you are telling it to do: send a string parameter ('play') to the OSC address "/duration/"
                                        The format of this messages is: address, type tags, value(s). What you were sending was this:

                                        OSC    | 127.0.0.1:1235 | 2F 64 75 72  61 74 69 6F  6E 2F 00 00  2C 73 00 00 | /dur atio n/.. ,s.. |

                                                                | 70 6C 61 79  00 00 00 00                           | play ....           |

                                        If you wish to send to the address /duration/play" then just put this in the 'address' input and set the 'value' input to '' (an empty string.) The output will look like this:

                                        OSC    | 127.0.0.1:1235 | 2F 64 75 72  61 74 69 6F  6E 2F 70 6C  61 79 00 00 | /dur atio n/pl ay.. |

                                                                | 2C 73 00 00  00 00 00 00                           | ,s.. ....           |

                                        Now, there will still be a type tag ",s" followed by an empty string, but this will hopefully not affect the receiver.
                                        Give it a try.
                                        Furthermore -- you really should **never** turn type tags off. If there is no type tag, then the OSC standard states that you should assume the parameter is a float. This is the quote from the OSC spec:
                                        Best Wishes,
                                        Mark

                                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                        • jhoepffner
                                          jhoepffner last edited by

                                          Dear Mark,

                                          I will give it a try (I give tomorow a 5 days class about Isadora, good time to try…).
                                          I have made some other tries, you can see it on github (address gived before),
                                          Thanks

                                          Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                                          GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                                          MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                                          MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                                          MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                                          • jhoepffner
                                            jhoepffner last edited by

                                            Mark,
                                            I just tried it and sending a empty string with /duration/play adress doesn't work, that's works perfectly though OSCulator, suppressing the argument, or Max, suppressing the space.
                                            I wrote to James Georges, I think the fault is on his side, normaly a good OSC message have address: /duration/play and message, like timecode as string : 00:01:30:222 in /duration/seektotimecode who works perfectly.
                                            But the best way is to enslave Duration to Isadora: varispeed, stop and go in Isadora, capacity to change the parameters in live in Duration, recording it.
                                            I am just trying to record live OSC in Duration.
                                            That made a perfect partner for Isadora.
                                            Thanks

                                            Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                                            GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                                            MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                                            MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                                            MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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