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    Lanbox, High Sierra and MacBook Pro 2017

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    • R
      RodrigoFischer last edited by

      Dear all, 

      I used to to do my show using LanBox connected with my old MacBook and it was great.

      Now, with my new notebook, I can't connect my Lanbox. I am a little bit desperate because my show is coming and I don't know what to do.

      Anyone have connected LanBox with the new MacBook (High Sierra)?

      I'd appreciate if someone can give me any suggestion.

      Yours sincerely,

      Rodrigo Fischer

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      • jhoepffner
        jhoepffner last edited by

        I continue to use lanbox but I share the work between a 13" with el Capitan where I can program it and my 15" with High-Sierra where I just send command from Isadora to Lanbox, via midi or TCP/IP.

        I am on the way to completely rewrite a software with TouchDesigner and TCP/IP able to change the patch, create a cue, change a step etc. Its quite a lot of work and I am at the beginning but I am playing a show tomorrow with devices used like that. LC-edit works not so bad on W10, it can be a good idea to buy a cheap PC just to program the lanbox and your expansive Mac to use Isadora for video and send command. The easiest way is to use midi because there is no problem of password, 16 bits etc. You cannot access all the functions but the most useful during the show, changing cue and step, changing transparency of layer, changing a chase.

        Jacques

        Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
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        • bonemap
          bonemap last edited by

          @rodrigofischer said:

          I used to to do my show using LanBox connected with my old MacBook and it was great

          How did you connect your LanBox to the previous MacBook? Are you looking to use LCEdit or is the Lanbox just passing DMX from Isadora i.e. using Isadora's Lanbox actors in the  patch?

          The new MacBooks are USB-C have you tried a USB or ethernet converter dongle?

          best wishes

          bonemap

          http://bonemap.com | Australia
          Izzy 3 STD/USB 3.2.5 | MBP 16” 2019 2.4 GHz Intel i9 64GB AMD Radeon Pro 5500 8 GB 4TB SSD | Mac Studio 2022 M1 Max 32GB | OSX 12.5.1 Monterey

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            RodrigoFischer @jhoepffner last edited by

            @jhoepffner, first of all, thank you so much for your replying. Let't me see If I've understood you. You are saying I can still work with my Macbook (sierra) to control the Lanbox. The signal goes from the DMX through my Lanbox and Isadora can still work, right?  The only problem is to work on Lcedit and your suggestion is to have a cheap notebook (macbook with El Captain or a W10) just to create projects with LCedit. That sounds good and it's definitely a good option. 

            Honestly, I am very pissed with Lanbox. They should fix this, don't you think? It's so expensive to not have an update. 

            Have you tried to contact the Lanbox support?

            And what about this project you are developing? Please, let me know if you can finish it. It'd be great if you can share.

            Best

            Rodrigo

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              RodrigoFischer @bonemap last edited by

              @bonemap I was connecting through Ethernet in my previous MacBook. And I want  to use LCEdit and lanbox passing DMX from Isadora.

              I have tried USB and ethernet but I didn't have success. 

              I do not understand why Lanbox doesn't update to use with High Sierra. 

              Anyway, I think Iam going to need one computer just to program LCEdit. 

              Thank you!

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              • bonemap
                bonemap @RodrigoFischer last edited by

                @rodrigofischer said:

                I do not understand why Lanbox doesn't update to use with High Sierra. 

                 Hi Rodrigo,

                I have been using my Lanbox with High Sierra and also LCedit to access the configuration settings through a MacBook Pro 2015 

                I will have a look at what is possible on a MacBook that only has USB-c in terms of connecting in High Sierra and also Mojave.

                I believe the issue with Lanbox enterprise is that the principal developer passed away some years ago now and the estate has continued the sale and maintenance of stock but not further development of the platform. I could be wrong, but this is my understanding.

                Best Wishes 

                Bonemap 

                http://bonemap.com | Australia
                Izzy 3 STD/USB 3.2.5 | MBP 16” 2019 2.4 GHz Intel i9 64GB AMD Radeon Pro 5500 8 GB 4TB SSD | Mac Studio 2022 M1 Max 32GB | OSX 12.5.1 Monterey

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                • jhoepffner
                  jhoepffner @RodrigoFischer last edited by

                  @rodrigofischer

                  Dear Rodrigo, unfortunately Bonemap is right, since the dead of the lanbox creator (ap. 5 years ago) there is nobody in charge of the project, only a society selling the products and a depository for the documents and software. His son tried to continue but a think its was too difficult to improve because all is based on old and underpowered processor and written in some old code. We can dream about an entirely OSC driven lanbox but it will stay a dream.

                  Arrival of cheap dmx and artNet interface finished to kill it.

                  Personally I continue to appreciate the possibility to have an independent, light and reliable box, external to my computer and keeping all my cues from several shows inside it. I can even leave it for installation with only tangible buttons to start and stop it.

                  I begun to make in Isadora a User Actor able to command some things on it, changing cue, changing step etc. But to access deeper functions, as patching or recording cues, the only way is TCP/IP and Isadora is not the most user friendly programmer software for that. After trying with Max/Msp, I found TouchDesigner can do that. I have still integrated in my performance computer some elements able to do what I need, simple tasks as with midi plus some more complicated as repatching, recording steps with fade time and showing the state of the lanbox.

                  I know that someone can be interested to it, but developing something distributable is another task. I work on it and, reasonably, I think to post a first solution around february, but without any guaranty! It will run on the free version of TouchDesigner and could be interfaced with OSC, so you can use it from Isadora.

                  Long life to lanbox.

                  Jacques

                  Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                  GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
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                  MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
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                  • CitizenJoe
                    CitizenJoe last edited by

                    This web site might be useful:  http://dmxusb.com/

                    Cheers,

                    Hugh

                    Hugh in Winnipeg - All test machines, Win10 Pro, 64 bit, OS SSD and separate data SSD.

                    1. new laptop: Dell 7560, i9 11950H, 64 gigs, NVIDIA RTX A4000 w/8 GB GDDR6
                    2. old desktop: Dell T5500 2009, Dual Quad Core Processor E5530, 12 gigs, 2x Radeon 5750... Still works well!
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                    • Fred
                      Fred last edited by

                      maybe not the solution you want but you can check out this product as the lanbox seems dead.

                      https://www.visualproductions....

                      I have used them on a few productions and they were great.

                      http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                      https://github.com/fred-dev
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                      • fubbi
                        fubbi last edited by

                        The slow death of the LanBox is very painful, especially since the problem is software (LCedit). The lanbox is still the best interface out there in my opinion.

                        I was hoping that maybe crowdfunding or open source or some other alternative could be considered. I have tried talking to them and there is just no response. 

                        Please write to them if you are a Lanbox fan. Maybe with enough interest they will wake up. 

                        info@lanbox.com

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                        • Fred
                          Fred @fubbi last edited by

                          @fubbi did you see the cue core unit? It is really quite good and even accepts midi and OSC out of the box, also the company Visual productions are very nice and responsive and have a great team of active developers, they take suggestions quite seriously, I have asked for a feature before (ability to send WOL packets from the unit) and it was implemented pretty quickly. I have them deployed in a theme park under mission critical conditions and they never glitched once. Is there something the LANbox does that this does not (not sure, only used a lanbox once and was not a fan of LCEdit.

                          http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                          https://github.com/fred-dev
                          OSX 10.15.15 MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
                          Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD
                          Windows 10 Threadripper 3960x 64g ram, 1tb NVME, rtx 2080ti + rtx2070 super

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                          • jhoepffner
                            jhoepffner @Fred last edited by

                            @fred

                            Unfortunately its not the same thing, beside the crappy LCedit interface, the possibilities of lanBox itself are really incredible: layers, transparency, loop, chaser, electrical input/output, Serial + midi + TCP/IP + UDP + DMX in and out, patching, curves. If Fubi create a fan club, I am in and I know people who are interested. As I say before, I am working on a improvement/replacement but I need some free time, perhaps during Christmas/New year time. I hope to publish something in February.

                            Stay tuned.

                            Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                            GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                            MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                            MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                            MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                            • Fred
                              Fred @jhoepffner last edited by

                              @jhoepffner I know the cue core has layers, midi, loops, GPIO, TCP, UDP, OSC, Serial, Midi, Midi and SMPTE timecode, sACN, Artnet and DMX inputs, it supports POE, NTP time server sync and calendar scheduling out of the box too. It is not a lan box but I think it can do all the lanbox can (but I did not use a lanbox much) and if it cant there is a chance to expand functionality. You may be better of going with a product with a future than trying to revive a dead one, and the interface is actually pretty nice.

                              http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                              https://github.com/fred-dev
                              OSX 10.15.15 MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
                              Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD
                              Windows 10 Threadripper 3960x 64g ram, 1tb NVME, rtx 2080ti + rtx2070 super

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                              • jhoepffner
                                jhoepffner @Fred last edited by

                                @fred

                                I looked quickly at cue core and, yes, it doe what you say but not on the box and the bill is expanding very, very quickly. I will take a look more carefully and yes, is not question to resurrect a dead horse. But when you have it and you know how to do, its a perfect machine. cue core seems very proprietary in hardware and software.

                                Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                                GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                                MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                                MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                                MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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