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    • Woland
      Woland Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

      @vidasonik said:

      I want to achieve a ghost outline image of the dancer's movement but without the background. So the movement is projected on top of other video imagery.

      Then you need to connect that chain of effects to a Projector actor. Currently the only thing you have running to a Projector actor is a direct line from the Video In Watcher actor.

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      • Vidasonik
        Vidasonik last edited by

        OK but there is no video out on the eyes actor! Where do i connect the second projector to??

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        • Woland
          Woland Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

          @vidasonik

          Eyes only exists for generating tracking data, that’s why it doesn’t have a video out. Connect a Projector to any actor up the chain from the Eyes actor.

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          • Vidasonik
            Vidasonik last edited by

            And then what? I just get me moving on top of me still! No moving white ghost outline on black background?

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            • Michel
              Michel Izzy Guru @Vidasonik last edited by Michel

              @vidasonik

              If I look at your patch and read what you want, you don't need the eyes actor. The eyes actor gives you numbers not video/ghost image. In your patch you get the untouched video on the preview window because you have connected the "video in watcher" directly to the projector and nothing else. 

              If you use a normal usb webcam you will have problems controlling the mask with the difference actor. Because of it's automatic fps and blend settings it will brake your freeze grab and the life input that get mixed. Use a camera where you have control over the settings and a capture device.

              Next to all I wrote above, I sat at least 30 minutes to try to get a mask with the above approach, so you only see the dancer. I had no success. 

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              • Woland
                Woland Tech Staff last edited by

                try

                Video In Watcher > Difference > Motion Blur (set top parameter to “100” > Projector actor

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                • Vidasonik
                  Vidasonik @Woland last edited by

                  @woland Thanks! Yes this is what I used to do - which is fine - but you get all the background along with the dancer.

                  I need to differentiate the dancer from the background which is why it seems to make sense to take a freeze shot of background WITHOUT dancer and then Izzy can subtract what remains UNCHANGED from the moving body! Graham Thorne showed me this freeze/eyes etc routine but I can't get it to work as I have said.

                  I use the web cam recommended in Izzy manual - I think its an HP one.

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                  • Vidasonik
                    Vidasonik last edited by

                    O yes here is the patch that works pretty well but still some background:

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                    • Vidasonik
                      Vidasonik last edited by

                      sorry didn't seem to attach anything!

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                      • Skulpture
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                        Hi.

                        Might sound obvious but you have to take the background image (by pressing P) with your body out of the live feed video.

                        Also remove the Live feed video out from the projector and connect it to the Effect Mixer Video out - you will see the result.

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                        • Vidasonik
                          Vidasonik last edited by

                          I just did this and this is the result!?

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                          • Vidasonik
                            Vidasonik last edited by

                            yes I've pressing 'p' after removing myself from the camera frame!

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                            • Michel
                              Michel Izzy Guru @Vidasonik last edited by

                              @vidasonik

                              As I wrote in my post above I don't think you will get what you want this way. Next to that, if you leave the setting "additive" in the blend mode of the projector it will definitely not work as you want.

                              Best Michel

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                              • DusX
                                DusX Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

                                @vidasonik

                                You may find you can clean away the background (somewhat) by adding a threshold actor. 
                                Additionally, a Contrast actor, may allow you to 'tune out' the background shades as well.
                                Its possible (depends on what you really want) that the TT Edge Detect glsl shader (requires downloading the bundle from the Plugins section) may provide some of what you want.

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                                • Vidasonik
                                  Vidasonik last edited by

                                  Cheers for that! Graham - you made it seem so easy!!!

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                                  • crystalhorizon
                                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum @Vidasonik last edited by

                                    @vidasonik said:

                                    Cheers for that! Graham - you made it seem so easy!!!

                                     Thats Graham 😍

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                                    • Vidasonik
                                      Vidasonik last edited by

                                      Yes, but what he made 'seem' easy is, evidently, 'actually' impossible !

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                                      • Woland
                                        Woland Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

                                        @vidasonik

                                        I don’t know about impossible. What aspect of what you’re trying to do haven’t you been able to accomplish yet? We’re here to help.

                                        Best wishes,

                                        Woland

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                                        • Michel
                                          Michel Izzy Guru @Woland last edited by

                                          @woland

                                          I guess what he wants to do is isolate a person/dancer with a normal web camera and put him over a background video/picture. And to be honest with that setup it will be more a tinkery unsatisfying solution.

                                          Best Michel

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                                          • Skulpture
                                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                            Working fine for me...

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