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    • bonemap
      bonemap Izzy Guru last edited by bonemap

      Hi,

      I attended the YouTube live Guru session presented by @Mark on Wednesday. It was great, and I hope @mark was encouraged to see over 60 viewers streaming his sessionto many different countries in real-time.

       My Timezone is 9hrs ahead so it was 3am start on Thursday. I have engaged in international online symposia and have had experiences of dealing with time zones similar to this before. I conducted a node for the international water day symposia for a number of years. I streamed live performances using Isadora with my dance artist partner as well as guest artist talks etc. The focus of world water day was around environmental issues and concerns. Many of these sessions were conducted with participants in other timezones so they were never at the usual time of an evening performance or event. Is this going to be the new normal, I wonder?

      @Mark has announced another Guru session that is aimed at more introductory tutorials, which is a wise gesture for the uptake of new Isadora users and deserves applause.

      At this point it would be really beneficial to set in motion an online symposia style event for creative work and discussion perhaps with a focus on Isadora projects and creative outcomes/output.

      If there is some interest in this development let me know here. If so we can start a discussion and use some online scheduling tools and calendars to plan and make it happen. The suggestion by @Michel of using Zoom software for this is good as it allows more collaborative toolsets and is supported by many of the institutions where Isadora advanced users work.

      I look forward to your response either as an Isadora user that might contribute a session or as someone who has an interest in just hooking in to something interesting and artistic.

      Let the creative recovery begin!


      best wishes

      The bonemap team

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      • Woland
        Woland Tech Staff @bonemap last edited by

        @bonemap

        I'd love to participate. I'm going bonkers being cooped up in my flat all day.

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        • Juriaan
          Juriaan Tech Staff @bonemap last edited by

          @bonemap

          I'm in :) Let's try to get a group together and create something beautifull

          Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
          Interactive Performance Designer, Freelance Artist, Scenographer, Lighting Designer, TroikaTronix Community moderator
          Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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          • tomthebom
            tomthebom last edited by

            Hi, I might not play in your league, but I am definitely on ;o)
            Best wishes, Tom

            Izzy 3.2.6 ARM on MBP14'/2023/M2 Pro/ macOS 13.5

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            • Woland
              Woland Tech Staff @tomthebom last edited by

              @tomthebom said:

              Hi, I might not play in your league

              Do not ever say or think this. 

              It is my firm belief that every Isadora user can learn something from every other Isadora user regardless of how experienced either of them are. Every single time I've taught Isadora to anybody, (from absolute beginners who've never touched it to veteran users who've been at it for years), they've always asked a question about doing something a way that I've never thought of, come up with an idea that I never would have, shown me something I never knew about the program, or we've made something together that never would have come to be without their input. I've even specifically sought out people who are completely new to the software to add to the beta group because they can offer a fresh perspective on every aspect of the program that every single experienced user (including myself, Mark, and the rest of the staff) is incapable of providing.

              Everyone's input is invaluable when it comes to collaboration, learning, and especially art!

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              • bonemap
                bonemap Izzy Guru @tomthebom last edited by bonemap

                @tomthebom said:

                I am definitely on

                 Hi Tom,

                @Juriaan 

                @Woland 

                I am going to set up an online date claiming tool so we can settle on the best time for each of us. To do that it would be helpful to know what timezones we are in.
                I am thinking of a Tuesday and Thursday session, but am also open to discussion about days and time. 

                Following is a draft project scope for discussion:

                Art Machine Symposium 

                Isadora Community sharing event

                Art machines whisper. Their utterances originate in mindful insights and sensory depravities, specialising in playful dynamics.

                We are on international time taking a cue from the Earths rotation around the sun. That 24 hrs fits more or less into 360°, and one degree of rotation of Earth is equivalent to 4 minutes of existence on its surface.

                Engage in episodic collaboration. Devise a presentation for screen media that will exist within 1° - 5° degrees. Think of a transformative conversation presented within a 4 - 20 minute block. 

                Our mediatised communications are performative; they are rich in audition and visual languages. Our expressions of art and identity expand realities of time and space, in moments that are now, not now and places that are no place. We exist as ghosts in the machine as something entirely other, at the same time completely human.

                Welcome to the Art Machine streaming collaboration symposium 100% virtual and live screencast. Linking artists through a global north-south event becoming one expression of peacefulness, playfulness, placefulness.

                The Isadora virtual community extends an invitation for you to represent your creativity, concepts and ideas in an episode that will cut through worldly geographies. We are the wild and bleeding edge of artistic practice that can use technology to thrive as a community of practice.

                4 minutes to 20 minutes bookable time slots

                screen an animation
                present an idea or concept
                demonstrate a technique in any medium
                conduct an interview
                screencast a performance
                read a poem
                narrate an experience
                play some music
                have a discussion
                generate realtime media objects

                Tuesday and Thursday international time 1 - 3 hours duration

                --

                Your thoughts?

                Best Wishes

                Russell

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                • tomthebom
                  tomthebom @Woland last edited by

                  @woland said:

                  Do not ever say or think this. It is my firm belief that every Isadora user can learn something from every other Isadora user regardless of how experienced either of them are. Every single time I've taught Isadora to anybody, (from absolute beginners who've never touched it to veteran users who've been at it for years), they've always asked a question about doing something a way that I've never thought of, come up with an idea that I never would have, shown me something I never knew about the program, or we've made something together that never would have come to be without their input. I've even specifically sought out people who are completely new to the software to add to the beta group becaHi WolanHuse they can offer a fresh perspective on every aspect of the program that every single experienced user (including myself, Mark, and the rest of the staff) is incapable of providing.Everyone's input is invaluable when it comes to collaboration, learning, and especially art!

                   Hi Woland, thanks for these words. That is the true spirit! I am training Aikido twice a week (before Corona), which is build on exactly that mindset. ;o)

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                  • Woland
                    Woland Tech Staff @bonemap last edited by

                    @bonemap said:

                    I am thinking of a Tuesday and Thursday session, but am also open to discussion about days and time. 

                     That works for me! I don't think I'll have anything ready or thought out until Thursday though.

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                    • Clement
                      Clement last edited by

                      @bonemap 

                      This is a great and beautiful idea !

                      If I well understand, you suggest to introduce a concept during 4-20 min, with or without inherent visual expressions, so it is not a brainstorming Izzy patch.

                      I'm not familiar with community softwares like Zoom mentionned above, but does it let you to show your computer screen or just a shared page where you can draw and edit text ? Do you know if internal mic works without larsen ?

                      Warm Wishes.

                      Clement

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                      • martin_kemner
                        martin_kemner last edited by

                        Hi, a lot of my dancer friends are pretty unhappy about not moving together with their colleagues. Id like to let people dance together which are actually in different places and want people to watch this. So I got myself some dancers, OBS-Software for streaming an of course Izzy. I planned to syphon two Videostreams from Skype or zoom or whatever. unfortunately my favorite syphon server (Syphoner) does not work with my Mac running on Catalina. I couldn't find anything (internet shows me a lot of plumbing stuff) so I beg you to tell me: what syphon server can I use to realize this simple idea which can be a real thing (as im told by my dancing friends) Thanx 

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                        • Michel
                          Michel Izzy Guru @martin_kemner last edited by

                          @martin_kemner

                          can't you use OBS with ndi or syphon to do that?

                          Best Michel

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                          • martin_kemner
                            martin_kemner @Michel last edited by

                            @michel OBS and Izzy are fine. My problem is to put the video streamy of the two dancers (via Skype i.e.) into Izzy. 

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                            • bonemap
                              bonemap Izzy Guru @martin_kemner last edited by bonemap

                              @martin_kemner said:

                              : what syphon server can I use to realize this simple idea

                               I would check out AirServer for syphon into Isadora

                              Best Wishes

                              Russell

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                              • Michel
                                Michel Izzy Guru @martin_kemner last edited by

                                @martin_kemner

                                OBS can capture any window on your computer and from there you can send it via syphon. But I am just seeing it has quite a delay compared to Syphoner.

                                Best Michel

                                Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                • Michel
                                  Michel Izzy Guru @martin_kemner last edited by

                                  @martin_kemner

                                  just saw that techlife now sells an app called screen capture syphon for $10.- https://shop.techlife.sg/produ...

                                  Best Michel

                                  Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                    deflost @Michel last edited by

                                    hello, we have to cancel 10 shows in muenster, koeln and berlin volksbuehne. we also have to break the rehersals for some days, but be able to 

                                    stay at the recidence at all. so we has already an live strem in our concept, and at the end one dancer has to leave us, so we decided to show 

                                    the point we reached in the rehersals in a kind of tv-show.

                                    so we did this on the 18th live with no technicans and no light control, without audio_mixer or some kind of support for that, 

                                    from the rehersal studio, and repeat the recording next day.

                                    the linked video is uncutted, so the show starts around 01:15:00, 

                                    stay tuned,

                                    https://youtu.be/UtlCrblVD48

                                    r.h.

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                                    • bonemap
                                      bonemap Izzy Guru @Clement last edited by bonemap

                                      @clement said:

                                      I'm not familiar with community softwares like Zoom

                                      We just send you a link and you participate from a browser viewport or if you have the desktop application. https://zoom.us/

                                      These are the times currently proposed:

                                      https://doodle.com/poll/yw4eqa...

                                      What time zone are you in?

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                                      • Clement
                                        Clement @bonemap last edited by

                                        @bonemap

                                        Thank you for the info, I live in France so my Time Zone is UTC+1.

                                        II downloaded the Client Zoom file, without mail registration, I hope it is sufficient.

                                        I checked the 2 dates suggested in the Doodle but I'm not sure to have something ready for tomorrow Wednesday 25... ( it will be Thursday for you :)

                                        Can we show media and video through the browser viewport ?

                                        Thx, see you.

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                                        • bonemap
                                          bonemap Izzy Guru @Clement last edited by

                                          @clement said:

                                          Can we show media and video through the browser viewport ?

                                           It is possible to show media and share screens etc. we can try it out. Because of the increased amount of online traffic it might be slow unfortunately. But the first session will test that.

                                          best wishes

                                          Russell

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                                          • tomthebom
                                            tomthebom last edited by

                                            I don't think, I will be able to contribute with so much tonight (about 1min) . (Un)fortunately my work made progress clarifying our online expectations and I have to follow up on that. But I happily join for a technical check in tonight... ;o) Best wishes

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