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    • bonemap
      bonemap Izzy Guru @tomthebom last edited by bonemap

      @tomthebom said:

      I am definitely on

       Hi Tom,

      @Juriaan 

      @Woland 

      I am going to set up an online date claiming tool so we can settle on the best time for each of us. To do that it would be helpful to know what timezones we are in.
      I am thinking of a Tuesday and Thursday session, but am also open to discussion about days and time. 

      Following is a draft project scope for discussion:

      Art Machine Symposium 

      Isadora Community sharing event

      Art machines whisper. Their utterances originate in mindful insights and sensory depravities, specialising in playful dynamics.

      We are on international time taking a cue from the Earths rotation around the sun. That 24 hrs fits more or less into 360°, and one degree of rotation of Earth is equivalent to 4 minutes of existence on its surface.

      Engage in episodic collaboration. Devise a presentation for screen media that will exist within 1° - 5° degrees. Think of a transformative conversation presented within a 4 - 20 minute block. 

      Our mediatised communications are performative; they are rich in audition and visual languages. Our expressions of art and identity expand realities of time and space, in moments that are now, not now and places that are no place. We exist as ghosts in the machine as something entirely other, at the same time completely human.

      Welcome to the Art Machine streaming collaboration symposium 100% virtual and live screencast. Linking artists through a global north-south event becoming one expression of peacefulness, playfulness, placefulness.

      The Isadora virtual community extends an invitation for you to represent your creativity, concepts and ideas in an episode that will cut through worldly geographies. We are the wild and bleeding edge of artistic practice that can use technology to thrive as a community of practice.

      4 minutes to 20 minutes bookable time slots

      screen an animation
      present an idea or concept
      demonstrate a technique in any medium
      conduct an interview
      screencast a performance
      read a poem
      narrate an experience
      play some music
      have a discussion
      generate realtime media objects

      Tuesday and Thursday international time 1 - 3 hours duration

      --

      Your thoughts?

      Best Wishes

      Russell

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      • tomthebom
        tomthebom @Woland last edited by

        @woland said:

        Do not ever say or think this. It is my firm belief that every Isadora user can learn something from every other Isadora user regardless of how experienced either of them are. Every single time I've taught Isadora to anybody, (from absolute beginners who've never touched it to veteran users who've been at it for years), they've always asked a question about doing something a way that I've never thought of, come up with an idea that I never would have, shown me something I never knew about the program, or we've made something together that never would have come to be without their input. I've even specifically sought out people who are completely new to the software to add to the beta group becaHi WolanHuse they can offer a fresh perspective on every aspect of the program that every single experienced user (including myself, Mark, and the rest of the staff) is incapable of providing.Everyone's input is invaluable when it comes to collaboration, learning, and especially art!

         Hi Woland, thanks for these words. That is the true spirit! I am training Aikido twice a week (before Corona), which is build on exactly that mindset. ;o)

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        • Woland
          Woland Tech Staff @bonemap last edited by

          @bonemap said:

          I am thinking of a Tuesday and Thursday session, but am also open to discussion about days and time. 

           That works for me! I don't think I'll have anything ready or thought out until Thursday though.

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          • Clement
            Clement last edited by

            @bonemap 

            This is a great and beautiful idea !

            If I well understand, you suggest to introduce a concept during 4-20 min, with or without inherent visual expressions, so it is not a brainstorming Izzy patch.

            I'm not familiar with community softwares like Zoom mentionned above, but does it let you to show your computer screen or just a shared page where you can draw and edit text ? Do you know if internal mic works without larsen ?

            Warm Wishes.

            Clement

            https://clementbardet.wordpress.com
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            • martin_kemner
              martin_kemner last edited by

              Hi, a lot of my dancer friends are pretty unhappy about not moving together with their colleagues. Id like to let people dance together which are actually in different places and want people to watch this. So I got myself some dancers, OBS-Software for streaming an of course Izzy. I planned to syphon two Videostreams from Skype or zoom or whatever. unfortunately my favorite syphon server (Syphoner) does not work with my Mac running on Catalina. I couldn't find anything (internet shows me a lot of plumbing stuff) so I beg you to tell me: what syphon server can I use to realize this simple idea which can be a real thing (as im told by my dancing friends) Thanx 

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              • Michel
                Michel Izzy Guru @martin_kemner last edited by

                @martin_kemner

                can't you use OBS with ndi or syphon to do that?

                Best Michel

                Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                • martin_kemner
                  martin_kemner @Michel last edited by

                  @michel OBS and Izzy are fine. My problem is to put the video streamy of the two dancers (via Skype i.e.) into Izzy. 

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                  • bonemap
                    bonemap Izzy Guru @martin_kemner last edited by bonemap

                    @martin_kemner said:

                    : what syphon server can I use to realize this simple idea

                     I would check out AirServer for syphon into Isadora

                    Best Wishes

                    Russell

                    http://bonemap.com | Australia
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                    • Michel
                      Michel Izzy Guru @martin_kemner last edited by

                      @martin_kemner

                      OBS can capture any window on your computer and from there you can send it via syphon. But I am just seeing it has quite a delay compared to Syphoner.

                      Best Michel

                      Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                      • Michel
                        Michel Izzy Guru @martin_kemner last edited by

                        @martin_kemner

                        just saw that techlife now sells an app called screen capture syphon for $10.- https://shop.techlife.sg/produ...

                        Best Michel

                        Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                          deflost @Michel last edited by

                          hello, we have to cancel 10 shows in muenster, koeln and berlin volksbuehne. we also have to break the rehersals for some days, but be able to 

                          stay at the recidence at all. so we has already an live strem in our concept, and at the end one dancer has to leave us, so we decided to show 

                          the point we reached in the rehersals in a kind of tv-show.

                          so we did this on the 18th live with no technicans and no light control, without audio_mixer or some kind of support for that, 

                          from the rehersal studio, and repeat the recording next day.

                          the linked video is uncutted, so the show starts around 01:15:00, 

                          stay tuned,

                          https://youtu.be/UtlCrblVD48

                          r.h.

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                          • bonemap
                            bonemap Izzy Guru @Clement last edited by bonemap

                            @clement said:

                            I'm not familiar with community softwares like Zoom

                            We just send you a link and you participate from a browser viewport or if you have the desktop application. https://zoom.us/

                            These are the times currently proposed:

                            https://doodle.com/poll/yw4eqa...

                            What time zone are you in?

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                            • Clement
                              Clement @bonemap last edited by

                              @bonemap

                              Thank you for the info, I live in France so my Time Zone is UTC+1.

                              II downloaded the Client Zoom file, without mail registration, I hope it is sufficient.

                              I checked the 2 dates suggested in the Doodle but I'm not sure to have something ready for tomorrow Wednesday 25... ( it will be Thursday for you :)

                              Can we show media and video through the browser viewport ?

                              Thx, see you.

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                              • bonemap
                                bonemap Izzy Guru @Clement last edited by

                                @clement said:

                                Can we show media and video through the browser viewport ?

                                 It is possible to show media and share screens etc. we can try it out. Because of the increased amount of online traffic it might be slow unfortunately. But the first session will test that.

                                best wishes

                                Russell

                                http://bonemap.com | Australia
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                                • tomthebom
                                  tomthebom last edited by

                                  I don't think, I will be able to contribute with so much tonight (about 1min) . (Un)fortunately my work made progress clarifying our online expectations and I have to follow up on that. But I happily join for a technical check in tonight... ;o) Best wishes

                                  Izzy 3.2.6 ARM on MBP14'/2023/M2 Pro/ macOS 13.5

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                                  • bonemap
                                    bonemap Izzy Guru @tomthebom last edited by

                                    @tomthebom said:

                                     happily join for a technical check in tonight..

                                     Hi Tom,

                                    I think it will work to tryout the technology and do some tests. I know there has been a big spike in online use of Zoom and there may be some significant latency to navigate. See you online then.

                                    Best wishes

                                    Russell

                                    http://bonemap.com | Australia
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                                    • Woland
                                      Woland Tech Staff @martin_kemner last edited by

                                      @martin_kemner said:

                                      from Skype

                                       @mc_monte recently informed me that Skype has native NDI support

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                                      • bonemap
                                        bonemap Izzy Guru @bonemap last edited by

                                        @tomthebom, @Clement, @Woland, All

                                        here is the Art Machine #1 link info:

                                        https://doodle.com/poll/yw4eqa...

                                        Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://jcu.zoom.us/j/84009547...

                                        Best Wishes

                                        Russell

                                        http://bonemap.com | Australia
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                                        • bonemap
                                          bonemap Izzy Guru @bonemap last edited by bonemap

                                          @bonemap said:

                                          @tomthebom, @Clement, @Woland,
                                          Thanks for joining the Art Machines #1 session. We were inspired by Clement’s mini thesis on the nature of time and emotion in the filmed image. I thought that was a very interesting way to think about the visual language of choreographed images. It was good to have a ’Isadora clinic’ session to better understand the limitations of working with sound in Isadora when simultaneously streaming a live feed through Zoom. We made some progress but did not answer all of the questions that came up.

                                          Rebecca and I are looking forward to the next session. Art Machines #2 and Isadora Clinic next week.

                                          Best wishes

                                          Russell

                                           

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                                          • tomthebom
                                            tomthebom @bonemap last edited by tomthebom

                                            @bonemap, @Clement, @Woland 

                                            Thanks for a good start. I managed to get through my workday, slept and tried to recap, what we have been talking about.
                                            @Clement: I am not sure, if I really got the full idea of your project. It would be nice to see, how Izzy comes into the game.
                                            But it was definitely interesting to hear about it.
                                            Most of all I was happy to meet you and share time with you. It is an odd thought, that we are locked down around the globe.
                                            And in the same time France feels like next door and Australia seems to be just around the corner...

                                            I tried to repatch my project, but I was not very successful tweaking my patch.
                                            Obviously I was to tired ;o)

                                            @bonemap: I was quite impressed by your puppet actor (and Rebeccas performance ;o): For a puppeteer, this has always been a dream to get access to a tool, that allows theses natural movements. 
                                            Is there any chance to look at the implementation of the 3d tree into the skeleton actor in the future?... As far as I remember, it is quite some math to connect the xyz coordinates to the joints of the skeleton.

                                            Looking forward seeing you next week, best wishes, Tom

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