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    Screen Capture actor (Alpha) - Bug Reports & Updated Versions

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      sommerdi last edited by

      Thanks for clarification and your support .... 

      Diether

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        kikko last edited by

        Thank you @mark for the clarification. Exactly same OBS behavior, actually I've already try the procedure you suggest and it work, but the limitation is when you have more than one display, you have to chose if grab only the laptop display or the other display belonging to Nvidia GPU

        Francesco

        Isadora 3.2.6/Win 10 Pro 64 bit/Intel Core i7-8750H/32GB DDR4 2400hz/Samsung SSD Evo 860 + Samsung SSD Evo 970/Nvidia GTX 1060

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        • CitizenJoe
          CitizenJoe last edited by

          @mark 

          Thanks for the clear explanation. It all makes sense now. Of course, the second display is running on the dedicated GPU (via Thunderbolt),  which is why I can see it. I'll try you're suggestions above.

          Cheers,

          Hugh

          Hugh in Winnipeg - All test machines, Win10/11 Pro, 64 bit, OS SSD and separate data SSD.
          Dell 7560, i9 11950H, 64 gigs, NVIDIA RTX A4000 w/8 GB GDDR6

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            deflost @CitizenJoe last edited by A Former User

            hello all,

            it would be great, to have a option to switch the visibility of the mouse pointer on and off?

            and sorry for anothertime the question why is while using the screencaptureactor the load in izzy 180% and the framerate goes to 12,

            when a youtube video in a browser window is paused, and goes down by play the video to 10 % and the framerate goes back to 60?

            thx

            r.h.

            xmg schenker laptop,clevo board, rtx 3080ti, i9, 32gb.
            windows 11

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            • mark
              mark @deflost last edited by

              @deflost said:

              and sorry for anothertime the question why is while using the screencaptureactor the load in izzy 180% and the framerate goes to 12,

               It's really important that you specify the operating system (Mac or Windows), operating system version (Mojave, Windows 10, etc), and the version of the Screen Capture actor when asking these questions. The covention is the forum is to put that information in your about your hardware and operating system in your signature line so we don't have to ask that every time. (For example, look at @CitizenJoe 's signature above.)

              Can you do that please? Also tell me the version of the screen capture actor.

              Thank you,
              Mark

              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                deflost @mark last edited by

                @mark

                sorry, ...

                win 10 64 bit, actor version 0.9.3, 

                thx,

                r.h.

                xmg schenker laptop,clevo board, rtx 3080ti, i9, 32gb.
                windows 11

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                • Videosmith
                  Videosmith last edited by

                  hi folks


                  I really enjoyed the guru session on this actor, and i'm super grateful you released it early. I have just started teaching an interactive video Isadora course for a uni in Vancouver, so I was able to introduce my students to Isadora. I showed them the Screen Capture actor this week, and I'm hoping it will open up some new ideas for them.

                  I've also been making some short video tutorials for the students. I have made a video on the SCREEN CAPTURE actor - it doesn't go into as much depth as the guru session, but hopefully it works as a nice intro. I thought I'd share it here:


                  Screen Capture Actor intro pt 1 - VIDEO

                  Screen Capture Actor intro pt 2 - VIDEO

                  also - intro to Camtwist - VIDEO

                  Sam Meech - artist and videosmith - hello@smeech.co.uk | @videosmithery
                  MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014 - OS 10.13.6 Hi Sierra)

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                  • Fred
                    Fred @mark last edited by

                    @mark with screen capture 0.94 and 0.93 on OSX 10.15.7 I get flashing windows when trying to capture using CPU from any browser. Is this a know issue, (it seems less frequent with Firefox compared to safari and chrome), it is not really useable. I have verified on a few different machines that the behaviour is the same.

                    http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                    https://github.com/fred-dev
                    OSX 13.6.4 (22G513) MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
                    Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD

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                    • Woland
                      Woland Tech Staff @Fred last edited by

                      @fred
                      I've logged your issue. In the meantime is it possible for you to work with the plugin in non-CPU mode as a workaround?

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                      • Fred
                        Fred @Woland last edited by

                        @woland no none of the scenarios will let me do that. I am using another software for this show for now.

                        http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                        https://github.com/fred-dev
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                        • Woland
                          Woland Tech Staff @Fred last edited by

                          @fred

                          We're glad that you were able to find a solution, even if it didn't involve using Isadora

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                          • Kathmandale
                            Kathmandale last edited by Kathmandale

                            In a perhaps related but probably separate issue, I noted a behaviour recently where the performance of the screen capture actor drops significantly in CPU mode if the targeted window is on a lower layer for a long time. The frame rate would drop to about 3 or 4 fps. Moving it to the front or possibly just part of it to the front, and then returning it to the back would fix it for a while before, eventually, performance would again drop off a cliff. This was on a mac, OS10.14

                            I guess the OS decides a window that has been hidden for a while is 'inactive' and stops refreshing it so often until it brought back to the front.

                            Keeping the window I was targeting at least partly visible seemed to make a huge difference. Eventually I got a second display hooked up to better facilitate GPU mode, which I guess is always the preferred option where possible.

                            2014 MBP Mojave 10.14.6 OS with 16GB, 2.5Ghz i7 quad core, Intel Iris Pro 1536 & Geforce GT 750m 2GB - Izzy 3.0.8
                            Gigabyte Brix Windows 10 with 32GB, i7-6700 quad core, 4GB GeForce GTX 950 - Izzy 3.0.8
                            Based in Manchester, UK.

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                            • Fred
                              Fred @Kathmandale last edited by

                              @kathmandale I just switched to syphon screen capture and don't get any issues even when the other window is maximized underneath Isadora. I don't think there are limitations but just some teething issues with the screen capture plugin.

                              http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                              https://github.com/fred-dev
                              OSX 13.6.4 (22G513) MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
                              Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD

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                              • Woland
                                Woland Tech Staff @Fred last edited by Woland

                                @fred said:

                                @mark with screen capture 0.94 and 0.93 on OSX 10.15.7 I get flashing windows when trying to capture using CPU from any browser. Is this a know issue, (it seems less frequent with Firefox compared to safari and chrome), it is not really useable. I have verified on a few different machines that the behaviour is the same.

                                I've just tested this on my Catalina partition using two monitors and my Mac Pro 2013 trashcan (because your syphon report reminded me of this). I opened a Google Chrome tab playing a Youtube video, then:

                                • Set the Screen Capture Alpha to display 1 and just captured the entire display
                                  • With 'window cpu mode' set to 'on', the framerate is fine (29-30fps) but I don't see any flashes.
                                  • With 'window cpu mode' set to 'off', the framerate is fine (29-30fps) but I still don't see any flashes.
                                • Set the Screen Capture Alpha to display 1, and selected the window from the "window list" input. 
                                  • With 'window cpu mode' set to 'on', I don't get a very good frame rate, (around 6 fps) but I don't see any flashes.
                                  • With 'window cpu mode' set to 'off', the framerate is fine (29-30fps) but I still don't see any flashes.

                                I have noticed that if I screen capture something that's a static website, the Screen Capture ALPHA actor only delivers one frame (and will only deliver a new one when something on the screen being captured changes). Youtube is constantly changing, so the actor is sending new frames at a steady rate, but so I'm not sure what would happen if you're screen capturing a website that only updates sporadically. That being said, I'd like to know what website you are trying to capture from; this may actually be a factor, so I'd like to include it in the my attempts to reproduce your issue.

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                                • Fred
                                  Fred @Woland last edited by

                                  @woland the website is an Ai bot that has been developed for this show. It is largely static. I will make a screen capture of but this and the syphon error and post them soon.

                                  http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                                  https://github.com/fred-dev
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                                  • Fred
                                    Fred @Woland last edited by

                                    @woland here is a video of the screen capture flashing, it is quite pronounced. I have posted a video of the syphon version in the other thread.

                                    https://www.dropbox.com/s/toks...

                                    http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                                    https://github.com/fred-dev
                                    OSX 13.6.4 (22G513) MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
                                    Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD

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                                    • mark
                                      mark @Fred last edited by

                                      @fred said:

                                      I get flashing windows when trying to capture using CPU from any browser. Is this a know issue, (it seems less frequent with Firefox compared to safari and chrome), it is not really useable. I have verified on a few different machines that the behaviour is the same.

                                      It is not a known issue. I am capturing right now from Safari on 10.15.7 (same as you) and I am not experiencing and black frames on my 2018 Mac Book Pro. @Woland tested this on his Mac Pro (round one) and also did not see any problems.

                                      Upon debriefing another user about his recent show, which included weeks of rehearsals and a two week run for a paying audience, reported to me no problems with the Screen Capture actor at all -- though he was using it with Zoom, not a browser.

                                      We need to know the exact website you were trying to capture from so we can try to recreate this issue. Please get that information to @Woland as soon as you can manage.

                                      Best Wishes,
                                      Mark

                                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                      • Fred
                                        Fred @Woland last edited by

                                        @woland I'll pm you the site as it is pretty of the work.

                                        http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                                        https://github.com/fred-dev
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                                        Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD

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                                        • Fred
                                          Fred @mark last edited by

                                          @mark I sent the site as a pm to @Woland . This is capturing with chrome and I have verified it now on 3 machines.

                                          Fred

                                          http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                                          https://github.com/fred-dev
                                          OSX 13.6.4 (22G513) MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
                                          Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD

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                                          • mark
                                            mark @Fred last edited by

                                            @fred @kathmandale @woland and all,

                                            So, it turns out this "black flicker" thing is a problem that is widely reported elsewhere. Type the following into google

                                            obs mac capture flicker

                                            you will discover dozens of items in the search results that show this is a pervasive problem. The OBS developers do not seem to have found a solution, which has a lot of people grumpy.

                                            But, I believe I have overcome this problem. I have sent a new version to Fred and am awaiting his feedback.

                                            Best Wishes,
                                            Mark

                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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