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      thatmattrogers last edited by Woland

      This is more of a "nice to have" feature but since my mis controller has light up buttons, they would be really useful for an operator to both find the controls in the dark and have some feedback on what is currently running.

      can isadora send signals back to the midi controller to activate those light up switches?

      If so, how do I set that up?


      I'm running Isadora 3 on Win10
      Machine 1- AMD 1700x 8 core CPU, 32GB RAM, and an AMD Radeon RX580 GPU
      Machine 2 -AMD 5900HX , 8 Core APU, 16GB Ram and an integrated GPU

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      • barneybroomer
        barneybroomer Beta Gold last edited by

        If the controller got a mapping set for the lights this would be no problem.

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          thatmattrogers @barneybroomer last edited by

          @barneybroomer

          it's an Akai APC mini, and the mapping seems to be available here https://www.traktorbible.com/f... I just don't know what to do with it.


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          • Eager Iguana
            Eager Iguana last edited by

            I have the same midi controller, and although I did get the lights doing all sorts of things I don't have the izzy file available, but this might assist.

            apc-mini.png

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              thatmattrogers @Eager Iguana last edited by

              @eager-iguana
              thanks, that feels like an important step. how do I use this information to implement the lights into a patch?


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              Machine 1- AMD 1700x 8 core CPU, 32GB RAM, and an AMD Radeon RX580 GPU
              Machine 2 -AMD 5900HX , 8 Core APU, 16GB Ram and an integrated GPU

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              • Juriaan
                Juriaan Tech Staff @thatmattrogers last edited by

                @thatmattrogers

                Hi there Matt, 

                You can send Note On commands to the AKAI APC Mini Controller. For example to turn on button XX you send;

                90 XX 01 (On)

                For Off;

                90 XX 00 (Off)

                For blinking

                90 XX 02 (Blink)

                The Red / Green / Yellow buttons can be controlled by sending

                90 XX 01 (Green)

                90 XX 02 (Green Blink)

                90 XX 03 (Red)

                90 XX 04 (Red blink)

                90 XX 05 (Yellow)

                90 XX 06 (Yellow blink)

                XX is the button number that you can see in the diagram of @Eager-Iguana

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                  thatmattrogers @Juriaan last edited by

                  @juriaan

                  Thankyou so much, this all makes sense to me now.


                  I'm running Isadora 3 on Win10
                  Machine 1- AMD 1700x 8 core CPU, 32GB RAM, and an AMD Radeon RX580 GPU
                  Machine 2 -AMD 5900HX , 8 Core APU, 16GB Ram and an integrated GPU

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                    thatmattrogers last edited by thatmattrogers

                    OK, this was a relatively brute force implementation but if you are using an AKAI APCmini and want a basic setup with a lit up "next" and "prev" button along with a dedicated button for each scene you've made which lights up to indicate that it's live...

                    then the user actor in the attached patch is a good starting point.

                    it took a while to build since there's soooooo many buttons to program, which led me to do some odd things like putting in multiples of actors that convey the same information. It was just getting too cumbersome wiring 48 different actors to the same "enter scene trigger" and I needed the ease of some copy/paste actions to save my sanity.

                    anyway, here it is.

                    AKAI APC mini

                    if anyone has any thoughts on how to streamline this, do let me know. I'm always excited to learn.


                    I'm running Isadora 3 on Win10
                    Machine 1- AMD 1700x 8 core CPU, 32GB RAM, and an AMD Radeon RX580 GPU
                    Machine 2 -AMD 5900HX , 8 Core APU, 16GB Ram and an integrated GPU

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                      thatmattrogers last edited by

                      There is one thing that I haven't been able to achieve from my wishlist.

                      In my current patch 48 buttons that correspond to a potential 48 cues are always lit yellow until they are the active scene. At which point the corresponding button turns green.

                      Ideally the number of buttons that are lit would correspond to the number of scenes that I've programmed, but I cant think of a way to achieve this with the actors available.


                      Any ideas?


                      I'm running Isadora 3 on Win10
                      Machine 1- AMD 1700x 8 core CPU, 32GB RAM, and an AMD Radeon RX580 GPU
                      Machine 2 -AMD 5900HX , 8 Core APU, 16GB Ram and an integrated GPU

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                      • Woland
                        Woland Tech Staff @thatmattrogers last edited by

                        @thatmattrogers said:

                        In my current patch 48 buttons that correspond to a potential 48 cues are always lit yellow until they are the active scene. At which point the corresponding button turns green.Ideally the number of buttons that are lit would correspond to the number of scenes that I've programmed, but I cant think of a way to achieve this with the actors available.Any ideas?

                        Here's a way to check the number of Scenes that exist, in case that helps.

                        2021-11-08-3.1.1-total-of-scenes-user-actor.zip

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                          thatmattrogers @Woland last edited by

                          @woland

                          That looks like a good starting point.


                          I'm running Isadora 3 on Win10
                          Machine 1- AMD 1700x 8 core CPU, 32GB RAM, and an AMD Radeon RX580 GPU
                          Machine 2 -AMD 5900HX , 8 Core APU, 16GB Ram and an integrated GPU

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                            thatmattrogers @Juriaan last edited by

                            @juriaan @Woland @Eager-Iguana @barneybroomer 

                            Since you all have this midi thing down, I have another question: is it possible to send a range of midi signals in the same way that it is possible to listen for a range? ie. if I wanted to send every pitch from 8-63 though port 1 channel 1 with velocity 5


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                            Machine 1- AMD 1700x 8 core CPU, 32GB RAM, and an AMD Radeon RX580 GPU
                            Machine 2 -AMD 5900HX , 8 Core APU, 16GB Ram and an integrated GPU

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                              Woland Tech Staff @thatmattrogers last edited by Woland

                              @thatmattrogers said:

                              Since you all have this midi thing down, I have another question: is it possible to send a range of midi signals in the same way that it is possible to listen for a range? ie. if I wanted to send every pitch from 8-63 though port 1 channel 1 with velocity 5

                               The only way I know of is to send the messages one after another. The patch I posted on your other thread should give you what you need in order to do that though.

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                                thatmattrogers last edited by

                                OK I now have a user actor which shows a green indicator for the current scene, has a lit button for "go" and "prev", and intelligently checks how many scenes there are in your patch and gives you a lit button linked to a jump actor for each one. Thanks to everyone who helped, as ever, any new task completed in Isadora comes with lots of new understanding for future projects.

                                If anyone has this same controller and would find this patch useful; here's the user actor that does all the stuff.

                                akai-apc-mini-control-final.iua3


                                I'm running Isadora 3 on Win10
                                Machine 1- AMD 1700x 8 core CPU, 32GB RAM, and an AMD Radeon RX580 GPU
                                Machine 2 -AMD 5900HX , 8 Core APU, 16GB Ram and an integrated GPU

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