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    [ANSWERED] Does Syphon work with M1 Macbook Pro? Or NDI instead?

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      trevorn1 last edited by Juriaan

      Hi!

      I'm using Zoom OSC with Isadora for an interactive installation and as a part of an orchestra piece, and for the show I'm planning to run a portion on an intel 16" MBP fully spec'd but I've been seeing and hearing about the M1 MBPs and wondering if that would be a better option. I'm enjoying using Syphon on the current computer because it's very low latency, I'm wondering if that's the case on Apple silicon or if NDI is pretty quick.

      Basically, does Syphon work on M1 macs? If not, is NDI latency as low? 

      Thanks! This has been a challenge to figure out and decide.

      Trevor New
      +11th Generation Intel® Core i7-11800H (2.3 GHz), 8 core/16 thread turbo up to 4.6 GHz. / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 with 6GB GDDR6 / 64 gigs of DDR4 Ram Windows 10 64 bit Laptop
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        Juriaan Tech Staff @trevorn1 last edited by

        @trevorn1

        Hi there Trevor, 

        Syphon works on M1 Macs.

        Syphon is basically texture sharing, it shares the image that your GPU produces directly with an other progress. NDI is an protocol that first needs to encode the stream (Using your CPU) to share it over the net (NDI stands for Network Device Interface)

        Syphon will always be cheaper / less latency then NDI because of this extra calculation step.

        Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
        Interactive Performance Designer, Freelance Artist, Scenographer, Lighting Designer, TroikaTronix Community moderator
        Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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          mark @Juriaan last edited by

          @juriaan said:

          Syphon will always be cheaper / less latency then NDI because of this extra calculation step.

           @trevorn1

          To emphasize what Juriaan is saying, it will be a lot faster (like instantaneous)  and consume far less (like nearly zero) of your CPU/GPU. NDI consumes a lot of CPU energy compressing the video.

          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            trevorn1 @mark last edited by

            @mark Thanks! That's really great to hear, I didn't realize NDI was compressing, that explains a lot. This is a huge help, thank you both so much for the thorough explanations. Just got my new video computer and I'm going to jump in. @Juriaan 

            Trevor New
            +11th Generation Intel® Core i7-11800H (2.3 GHz), 8 core/16 thread turbo up to 4.6 GHz. / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 with 6GB GDDR6 / 64 gigs of DDR4 Ram Windows 10 64 bit Laptop
            +Apple - MacBook Pro 14" - M1 8 core CPU 14 GPU - 16GB Memory - 512mb SSD

            • FundamentalAV Extreme X299 4K - 10th Gen (Cascade Lake-X Series): Intel Core i9-10900X Cascade Lake X 10 - Core with HT 3.7 GHz 32GB (4x 8 gig) DDR4 3200 Mhz Nvidia RTX 3080 10GB Windows 10 64 bit
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