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    [ANSWERED - TICKET] OpenNI & Orbbec crashes

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    • Vidasonik
      Vidasonik last edited by Juriaan

      Hi I'm having big problems as above.

      We have 3 important shows coming up (one in a week) and i'm considering abandoning the OpenNI and Orbbec.

      More often than not Izzy fails to 'see' the Orbbec - the red light stays out. But suddenly it can spring into action.

      I've had to do many forced quits and restarts.

      Is there an update for the BETA OpenNI? Or an update for Izzy - I have 3.25 rosetta.

      Grateful for any help!

      Thanks, David

      Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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      • DusX
        DusX Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

        @vidasonik

        Unfortunately, we have no new updates at this time. The OpenNi actors will not be updated to be Native for M1 systems (they will require Rosetta).

        It would be best to open a support ticket so that we can coordinate looking into any crash reports you may have submitted as well as discuss your system configuration.

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        • Vidasonik
          Vidasonik @DusX last edited by

          @dusx Hi! Unfortunately had little success with Izzy and depth camera during our two shows in Yorkshire.

          We have one last chance when we perform in Bradford December 15th so I need to iron out as many problems as I can before then.

          I believe I need to connect my two macs via ethernet? I have to use my older mac for OpenNI and send data to the new one (M1 max).

          Can you advice what cables/router etc I would need?

          Thanks in advance, David

          Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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          • DusX
            DusX Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

            @vidasonik

            Assuming you want to send both skeleton tracking data (OSC) and video data (NDI) you should get a Gigabit ethernet router, and some gigabit ethernet cable (one for each computer). You will also need ethernet adapters for your Macs (if not built-in).

            OSC (numbers / text)

            You can send the skeleton tracking data via a number of OSC channels, or you can group the values into JSON (using either the JSON Bundler add-on or the Javascript actor) and send each skeleton as a single JSON string. You will then need to use either the JSON Parser add-on or the Javascript actor on the receiving system to unpack the skeleton data values.

            NDI (video)

            Sending the video via NDI can be achieved by creating a Virtual Stage in Stage Setup for each video stream you want to send and checking the NDI output option on the Virtual Stage settings pane. Then send the video from the OpenNI Tracker actor to one or more Projectors with the virtual stage/s set for the stage input.

            You will need the NDI watcher actor from the Add-ons page to bring the NDI video stream into your other computer.

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            • Woland
              Woland Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by Woland

              @vidasonik said:

              I believe I need to connect my two macs via ethernet? I have to use my older mac for OpenNI and send data to the new one (M1 max).Can you advice what cables/router etc I would need?

               @Juriaan Got any specific gear recommendations for this?

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              • Woland
                Woland Tech Staff @DusX last edited by

                @dusx said:

                OSC (numbers / text)You can send the skeleton tracking data via a number of OSC channels, or you can group the values into JSON (using either the JSON Bundler add-on or the Javascript actor) and send each skeleton as a single JSON string. You will then need to use either the JSON Parser add-on or the Javascript actor on the receiving system to unpack the skeleton data values.NDI (video)Sending the video via NDI can be achieved by creating a Virtual Stage in Stage Setup for each video stream you want to send and checking the NDI output option on the Virtual Stage settings pane. Then send the video from the OpenNI Tracker actor to one or more Projectors with the virtual stage/s set for the stage input.You will need the NDI watcher actor from the Add-ons page to bring the NDI video stream into your other computer.

                 I already built this setup for @Vidasonik , the only thing left is getting equipment and settings down for a solid network connection.

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                • Juriaan
                  Juriaan Tech Staff @Woland last edited by

                  @woland @Vidasonik

                  I would recommend a Gigabit router with multicast support for OSC communication between two computers. You could simply pick-up a gaming router, that would work fine. Also, the UI / settings menu is friendlier on those devices than the pro devices that I use in the field. 

                  A Netgear router is a great option for example that can be picked up without breaking the bank. Just make sure that you are on the medium/high-end regarding prizing to get proper support for high bandwidth / multicast support / vLANs.

                  Pro devices that I personally use;

                  https://eu.store.ui.com/produc... with an dedicated WiFI access point

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                  • Vidasonik
                    Vidasonik @Juriaan last edited by

                    @juriaan Thanks! I'm currently bidding for this on ebay after some advice from Ryan Webber

                    NETGEAR Nighthawk R7000 AC1900 Smart WiFi Router

                    I guess i just need 2 standard ethernet cables to connect? Hopefully then I can get some nice smooth curves from the tracked hands of the dancer. The theatre internets I've used I don't think can transfer enough data.

                    Thanks everyone, David

                    Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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                    • Vidasonik
                      Vidasonik @Vidasonik last edited by

                      @vidasonik but then, of course, I'll have to get a couple of connectors so I can plug into the USB-C sockets on each mac !!

                      Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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                      • Vidasonik
                        Vidasonik @Juriaan last edited by

                        @juriaan I now have a netgear nighthawk as advised, ethernet cables and adaptors but I don't seem to be able to connect the two macs?

                        Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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                        • Woland
                          Woland Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

                          @vidasonik

                          You likely need to do this. Unlike the video, you will likely want to disable the wifi.

                          In the "Depth Camera Listener" User Actor I made for you, you might also need to go to the 'ndi source' input and re-select your NDI source.

                          Best wishes,

                          Woland



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                          • Vidasonik
                            Vidasonik @Woland last edited by

                            @woland I don't have ethernet in my list when I open Network folder in system preferences? I've no idea what to do having spent over £100 on connectors, adaptors and the Netgear Nighthawk!

                            Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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                            • Woland
                              Woland Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

                              @vidasonik

                              I sent you a message through the ticket system. I may be able to help.

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