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    How does Isadora run on OS X Mavericks?

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    • particlep
      particlep last edited by

      i'm experiencing a problem trying to update to 131f06.  i double click the installer and i get a message of

      "isadore core installer" can't be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.
      in my isadora folder i've already renamed the older version, don;t know if this has a baring on it.
      i'm going to download 06 again and try again.

      isadora v3.0.7
      mbp 2.6ghz i7
      mac osx 10.12.6
      dyslexic.

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      • Michel
        Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

        @particlep

        Go to "system settings --> security & privacy" and tick the box "Allow applications downloaded from "Anywhere" ".

        Best
        Michel

        Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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        • particlep
          particlep last edited by

          @Michel 

          thank you. all sorted :)

          isadora v3.0.7
          mbp 2.6ghz i7
          mac osx 10.12.6
          dyslexic.

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          • mark
            mark last edited by

            Dear All,
            What does this one mean: "now, saving project files with exact matching names in the same folder is possible."
            Huh? Can anyone explain that one?
            And is anyone else having problems with Command-Z for Undo on Mavericks?
            Best Wishes,
            Mark

            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            • mockej
              mockej last edited by

              @abanze (OP of problem above), I have tested scene delete and undo in Mav, it works... and when attempting to save identically named project I get the usual "... already exists" warning. Any more details on the problem?

              rMBP (2015) i7, 16gig, AMD Radeon R9 M370X, OS X 10.15 | located in Johannesburg, South Africa

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              • Contexter
                Contexter last edited by

                ... well we've (@abanze and me) made fatal experience with Isadora's scene undo stack (what happens - in case you delete one of exact copies of scenes - in case you delete the very first one of an array of scenes etc. - maybe there is a unit test suite telling the whole story?)   and with save as . We had dropbox and another external hard drive busy running backups - ... right now I can't reproduce this behavior anymore , fortunately !

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                • Dappertutto
                  Dappertutto last edited by

                  A couple other different screen-related behaviors I've noticed with Mavericks:

                  If you drag a window so that it spans two monitors, Mavericks will only show it on one of the screens. It chooses which screen to show it on based upon which screen you begin dragging the window from. (see attached image I took of my monitor setup)
                  Following Skulpture's instructions to disable "Displays have separate Spaces" returns it to its previous behavior where the window will span multiple monitors.
                  This won't impact most people, but good to know how Apple is tweaking their system. I wonder if this affects DH2G or TH2G?
                  Also, a minor thing for laptops (at least mine which is a 2010 MBP) with attached external monitor: Closing the lid of the laptop does not put the machine to sleep by default. It just removes that as an active monitor.

                  0670db-img_5451-7.jpg

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                  • mockej
                    mockej last edited by

                    @Contexter, damn, sounds like a complicated situation... but if you can't reproduce it, maybe the bug has crawled back into the woodwork, so to speak!

                    rMBP (2015) i7, 16gig, AMD Radeon R9 M370X, OS X 10.15 | located in Johannesburg, South Africa

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      Thanks @Dappertutto I don't recall this happening on my machine... I will need to check...

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • mark
                        mark last edited by

                        Dear All,

                        There does seem to be some kind of problem (and a workaround) with the ENTTEC drivers on Mavericks. 
                        Please check out [this link](http://www.enttec.com/support-center/kb/article/108-OS_X_Mavericks_(10.9)_-_IMPORTANT) which explains the problem.
                        Best Wishes,
                        Mark

                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                        • flick
                          flick last edited by

                          There's a really good explanation of app nap here, and the previous page has more technical explanation of the way CPU events are timed:

                          http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9/13/#app-nap

                          "When coalescing timers, Mavericks may delay events by around 100 milliseconds in order to get them to align with other events. (Unlike the example images above, timers will never be fired early in Mavericks; they may only be delayed.) This delay should be imperceptible to the user. "

                          I did have a menu bar up on my projection this past weekend, but I think it was outside the projector's actual projection area.  Didn't bother twiddling with it at the time.

                          The Spaces thing in Mavericks is also annoying because it tries to organize things somehow so that when you switch to Finder, for instance, you may slide sideways onto another space, instead of having the Finder windows pop in front of the app you're currently using.  I like to drag stuff from window to window many times an hour, and with spaces dividing themselves up all the time this doesn't work.

                          It's especially confusing if you use a laptop, and half the time you have another monitor attached and half the time you don't.  Finally had time to find out the cause and kill spaces.

                          What are spaces for?!  Does anyone find them useful?

                          www.flickharrison.com

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                          • particlep
                            particlep last edited by

                            @flick

                            i'd been using spaces under 10.6.8 for some time on a 13" laptop. i found them really useful to organise and access multiple applications all running at once.  it's taken me a while to adjust to the slightly modified way they work in mavericks.  the key thing appears to take time to set the application to a specific desktop.  i reported an isadora crash that appeared to happen after i set isadora to a specific desktop. that's on one of the other logins i run.

                            isadora v3.0.7
                            mbp 2.6ghz i7
                            mac osx 10.12.6
                            dyslexic.

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                            • dbini
                              dbini last edited by

                              Yesterday we had an issue which may well be Mavericks-related: couldn't get a Matrox Analogue Dual Head to work. replaced it with a Digital Edition and that worked straight away.

                              John Collingswood
                              taikabox.com
                              2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                              plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                              • dbini
                                dbini last edited by

                                ....and today there's a firmware update on the Matrox site that wasn't there yesterday....

                                John Collingswood
                                taikabox.com
                                2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                                • David
                                  David last edited by

                                  Hi, I use Izzy with Animata via Syphoner and after an update to Maverick Syphoner goes to sleep.

                                  Meaning that the controls from the kinect into animata are not updated after a while.
                                  I wanted to use the syphoner content for a realtime video performance and had to give it up
                                  because I had to repeatedly click on the syphoned window a few times to get the animation back into Izzy.
                                  Any suggestions besides not updating to Mavericks?
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                                  • Skulpture
                                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                    You can tell Syphoner not to sleep by showing info (Apple + I) on the app and turning on "Prevent App Nap."

                                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                    • crystalhorizon
                                      crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                      just saw this

                                      http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1707?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

                                      Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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