Motion Control Particles (e-motion software)

PatrickPagano

it never uploaded last night! darn interwebs. 05c733-particlesystem-5.izz

cypripedium

Dear Colleagues,

I search a solution to make emotion working with isadora from several years. I had somme success with OSC to modify some parameters as "oscillation" or "gravity" in emotion from isadora but i never succeeded with "animation tool". It seems that tuio messages coming from isadora are not recognized by emotion.
After a look on messages sended by reactivision, i succeed tonight. If some of you are looking for the solution, this is how i did :

First, i created the patch in isadora.
I wrote a patch in PureData wich receive informations from isadora and format for tuio protocol.
Launch Emotion. Create a particle grid (experimetal/FX => create textured particle). Show tuio tool (tools=>tuio) and mouve mouse on a stage in isadora (it works with mouse, so it could work with everything else with x/y coordinates). The data should be recognized. Click the checkbox on tuio tool in emotion and affect the datas to "animation".
All the files are attached. A video can be seen here : http://www.frvaillant.com/videos/emotion-cellulaire.m4v

Best Wishes
François
cd0431-osc-emotion.izz

vanakaru

@cypripedium

This is very interesting. Good investigation.

Could you post the rest of the files(better if you zip all of them).

cypripedium

Yes of course. I'll do this on monday evening. Can't do it before.

vanakaru

I recreated the Pd patch and I get eMotion to react somewhat. But I have problems with eMotion crashing. So a saved eMotion patch would be really helpful to troubleshoot mine. If I can open it without a crash obviously. e84a76-emotionosc.pd.zip

vanakaru

I am getting on with eMotion using the method I learned from my son. You just press any button and hope for reaction. If it gets out of hand you pull the plug and start over again. I with there would be more intelligent way to do this.

cypripedium

Sorry for the delay,

I'm afraid E-motion often crashes. But, in the tests i did, it didn't. You'll find my files here.
Sincerely
96b61b-emotion.zip

particlep

@cypridedium

thank you for sharing. i've had a quick play and can report that emotion was ok to begin with and with no real pattern developed what i can only describe as spammy behaviour.

i so want to get something out of emotion ... yet have to again have a moment of standing back from it.

quarterinchjack

Hi all,

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but there is a newer version of eMotion out now here:

http://www.am-cb.net/emotion/

It seems more stable, a little easer to navigate and I've had a little bit more success getting Isadora to transmit OSC straight to the programme without having to use Pd. Is anybody still playing around with eMotion? If so, have you had any luck with the Multi Transmit actor sending to it?

Thanks,

Andy

Skulpture

Thanks for the update!

I will have a look into this when I get the chance. I've alway loved the idea of eMotion but was difficult to get anything going.

crystalhorizon

Are there any tutorials for emotion?

Skulpture

A very old one here:

https://vimeo.com/10724063

And they have a Wiki page here:

http://www.am-cb.net/emotion/wiki/

crystalhorizon

Thanx Graham!

particlep

I've been playing with the latest emotion version. it seems a lot simpler now. one thing i've already got stumped on is the osc tool. i can;t see the o/c tool parameters to set up the linking.

btw i found the older version of emotion not to work now because of a time limit, so was forced to use the latest version.

particlep

to see the osc tool parameters in emotion :

window > current tool options

tools > osc

@[quarterinchjack](/troikatronixforum/profile/307/quarterinchjack)

i've been playing with osc multitransmit and have seen things working.

in the osc tool options window next to message in type , i left it as no value or "-"

in the value - parameter window i selected three attributes for the camera ( the osc transmit actor having 3 outputs, all floats).

the osc options window did not update the incoming osc value, however the values were seen to change in the camera tool window.

particlep

i've been playing with emotion again today. the osc linking of values seems to have disappeared in the current version.

one thing i'm aware of is that i'm not getting into the mindset of emotion to get it to work. when i say get it to work, i want to feel that the output is as a result of something that i am in control of, if only so i can say that the output is connected to my idea. i rather feel that the programme is dictating what i can make from it.

this might be different if i understand it better.

it might be that where i'm going wrong is from a point of view of the mindset of a production and all that goes with that.

there is also leap motion integration. that might be the next thing to play with.

Skulpture

Thanks for the updates @particlep I know what you mean about software that can direct you rather than you direct it. :)

particlep

does anyone know much about TUIO ? the acroyn stands for tangible user interface.

emotion supports it and i suspect from initial findings that emotion will work better via tuio connectivity than osc.

via www.**tuio**.org/‎ i have found this little video link of an iOS app : [https://code.google.com/p/tuiopad/](https://code.google.com/p/tuiopad/)

mark

Dear @particlep,

TUIO uses something like OSC, but you really need to interpret the data in a special way. This is something I intend to add to Isadora, but it's just not there yet.

I'm sorry that it's not there yet. You'll ned to wait if you want to use TUIO directly in Isadora.

All the Best,

Mark

David

Dear All,

the new version of eMotion works out of the box with the leap motion.

Here are quick steps to making it happen :

1\. select the grid particle tool

2\. go to window/current tool options

3\. change values to width and Hight currently at 100 each to 50, then press create

(I use smaller values hoping it wouldn't crash but It maybe doesn't change anything it crashed 5 times since

I started this article.)

4\. once the grid is up go to tools/leap or press Cmd+$

5\. set fingers to "current tool" in the "Associated tools" and check the enabled button

6\. If you want to see the fingers positions you can check the boxes below. You might have to change the "translate values above" as shown in the attached picture.

7\. Now choose tools/motion brushes - tweak the values

8\. and voila depending on the force you applied you should see your fingers modifications

This is as far as I got. Once this is understood drawing with brushes is relatively easy.

It's really a shame not to be able to use this tool.

I personally use it by filming the screen with screen flow and use the footage in another program then projected on my large drawings.

Hope this helps.

Best,

David