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    Has anybody worked with the new 13" (2015) Macbook Pro?

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      tadakan last edited by

      So far as I'm aware, none of the 13" MBPs have dedicated gpus. Given the increasing importance of gpu processing in isadora and other video applications, I'd stick with the 15". Which is what I did in October, I've been quite happy with it.

      OSX 10.11.6 on 15" rMBP from Oct. 2014. 2.5ghz i7 16gb ram.

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      • ursullivision
        ursullivision last edited by

        So, does that mean that the GPU actors don't function on non-dedicated Macs (iMacs as well?).

        Problem is, that the 15" macbook pro is not in my budget this year....

        Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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        • jhoepffner
          jhoepffner last edited by

          Hello,

          I use a 13" MacBook Pro for a performance, it works perfectly well for what I need there, 3 HD flux, some 3D transformation, mapping, sound, light, with 2 separate output for beamers and some FCPX and Motion last moment corrections.
          Everything works, just a little bit slower than on my 15" with dedicated graphic card.
          The best is to try if it works for your need…
          Jacques

          Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
          GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
          MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
          MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
          MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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          • maxiwille
            maxiwille last edited by

            Hi All ! im also considering to buy the new MAcBOOK Pro Retina 13". Could you explain a little more of the dedicated GPu? What is that exactly ? is there a way to work it out?

            Thanks a lot 
            Maxi

            Maximiliano Wille. MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015). 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5. 16gb.Intel Iris Graphics 6100 1536 MB. http://www.redisadoralatina.com
            Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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            • Skulpture
              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

              In a very simple explanation:

              Motherboards have their own graphics output with a little bit of dedicated memory to power monitors and displays. These are generally ok for day to day use and a light gaming/videos, etc. This is called CPU because the graphics are being done on the motherboard.
              But as gaming and other professional video fields have developed now we can buy separate graphics cards and slot them into the motherboard. These have their own memory. Usually 2gig of ram or more. This is called GPU because its being done on the graphics card.
              Isadora used to run *mostly* on CPU but now the latest actors run on GPU because generally people have dedicated GPU cards now. As technology has advanced these cards have become staggeringly quick and very powerful.
              Isadora can use both. For instance the "Classic Movie Player" actor says VID-CPU on the output telling us that its playing VIDEO-CPU but the newer "Movie Player" actor shows us VID-GPU.
              I hope this helps. Others with much better hardware knowledge can expand on my explanation but this is the description is a very simple form. 

              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
              RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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              • Skulpture
                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                I would also read over this page:

                http://troikatronix.com/support/kb/optimizing-for-speed/
                :)

                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                • Unfenswinger
                  Unfenswinger last edited by

                  The early 2015 MBP 13" has a Broadwell dual core CPU with an Intel Iris 6100 GPU built into it. There is no option to have a discrete GPU like the 15".

                  The Iris 6100 is quite a reasonable performer for an integrated GPU but no match for the nVidia 750M in the current (old) 15" MBP. I'd expect the next revision of the MBP 15" to have the 980M (if Apple stays with nVidia) which is a seriously good mobile GPU.
                  You'd have to get the 13" get the fully loaded version to make it worthwhile with the i7 CPU upgrade, as much RAM as you can afford and as much Flash storage. The base and mid CPU models don't strike me as being up to the job.
                  Personally, my advice would be to go for a retina 15" with an i7 quad core CPU with the 750M GPU. Better still wait for the update which might just get announced at WWDC. I'm waiting for the update before buying a new laptop because the GPU and speed improvements (x2) to the Flash storage will make it a much more capable AV playback computer. It should thoroughly thrash my 2010 Mac Pro.
                  HTH.
                  Edit: Rumour sites say new MBP 15" arriving in the Stores on Wed.
                  Edit2: Always risky to second guess Apple. No Broadwell CPU but a Radeon M370x GPU 16GB RAM standard and flash storage 2+x faster and force touch track pad.

                  @unfenswinger
                  Gone all PC...

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                  • crystalhorizon
                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                    Curious about the new 15' MBP. For sure Firewire is a thing of the past :-(

                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                    • Unfenswinger
                      Unfenswinger last edited by

                      The creative community watch with bated breath to see how many useful ports Apple now see as obsolete!

                      @unfenswinger
                      Gone all PC...

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                        tadakan last edited by

                        There hasn't been a real firewire port on a MBP in several years now. I don't see any reason to think that the thunderbolt to FW 800 adapters would stop working though... I'm currently using a m-audio profire 2626 (rather old audio interface) on my 15" mbp and it works just fine with the adapter. Apple will just make us buy more and more adapters as they continue to change ports.

                        OSX 10.11.6 on 15" rMBP from Oct. 2014. 2.5ghz i7 16gb ram.

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          To be honest firewire was awkward and tricky to work with. The FW800 cable never stayed in and if it did come loose it cold fry the circuit boards in hard drives and capture cards, etc. I had many a FW410 (m-audio) fry on me at my last job.

                          Thunderbolt seems to be a bit better but the cables still wiggle and for me - doesn't seem snug enough.

                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          • Unfenswinger
                            Unfenswinger last edited by

                            I'm glad Apple didn't decide to combine several connectors into the one C type for aesthetic reasons and it's still possible to interface with the real world.

                            I bought the new rMBP and will be happy to benchmark it for people once it arrives next week, if there's any Izzy scenes you want run then post them up.
                            The GPU seems to be a reasonable performer without being earth shattering but the real attraction is the flash storage, Read: 1814 megs/sec Write: 1507 megs/sec which is pretty gobsmacking.

                            @unfenswinger
                            Gone all PC...

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              Sounds great @Unfenswinger please do keep us updated :) 

                              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                              RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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