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    • V
      videovoce last edited by

      Hi Folks, From a newbie, a very general question: in the latest version of Izzie, is there any difference in performance on a Windows machine vs. Mac hardware? (Comparing hardware of equivalent capabilities on the two platforms, assuming the running of the latest OS on each, and use of the preferred codecs on each platform.) I seem to recall that there was a difference, in Izzie 1.x, in the ability of the software to access the GPU on a Windows machine vs. on Mac hardware. I am looking for clarification on whether this difference has carried over to Izzie 2.0.x, or whether we can now assume equivalent performance on both platforms. Many thanks!

      laurel macdonald • videovoce • toronto canada • http://www.improbablemusic.com

      MacBook Pro • OSX 10.11 • 2.6 GHz Core i7 • NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M • 850 SSD

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      • gapworks
        gapworks last edited by

        one thing that differs is that windows does not support any of the Qc Actors, which i use a lot. i also build many of my actors in quarz composer. also not available for windows.

        Running MBP2017 / Ventura Osx 13.6.7 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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        • DusX
          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

          Yes. Mac will be the more flexible platform as far as feature list. But video is equally gpu based on both platforms now. Ffgl support extends gpu features a lot and the new mapper supports full gpu processing on both platforms. Also the hap codec is gpu decompressed on both platforms. if you need external processing features like that of QC on Mac, you can now use the new gpu video sharing (spout) to share/process video with many environments like the free processing.org language. PCs offer cost savings on hardware as opposed to apple as well.

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          • V
            videovoce last edited by

            Thanks so much, DusX and gapworks! Very interesting to note that the video signal can be sent via Spout to environments such as Processing for additional QC-like manipulation. I'm looking forward to digging in again with this knowledge at hand!

            Cheers.

            laurel macdonald • videovoce • toronto canada • http://www.improbablemusic.com

            MacBook Pro • OSX 10.11 • 2.6 GHz Core i7 • NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M • 850 SSD

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            • Fred
              Fred last edited by

              I recently did a little investigating for an image processing setup on mac vs PC. In the end I found laptops with the same specs are pretty much the same price mac vs pc, but PC wins in towers every time and you can add and remove what you need and don't need and the price was much lower. If you buy a laptop it is more an aesthetic choice and for a tower go PC.

              http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
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              OSX 13.6.4 (22G513) MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
              Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD

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              • crystalhorizon
                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                The last PC laptops I had to buy every three years a new one. Now on my first macbook I come to that "critical" three year boarder. This machine now behaves different, I hope it asts longer...a question to Isadora users here on the forum: how long are macbook users working with a machine before buying a new one?

                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                • Michel
                  Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                  @feinsinn I buy a new one every 3 to 4 years. Not because I have to ( they still work fine) but because I want to. Best Michel

                  Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                  • Michel
                    Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                    And you get more money selling your old MacBook Pro compared to sell an old PC Laptop. Well at least in Switzerland.

                    Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      I think I may save up and get one the end of next year - but try and time it so I get the newest version. You can generally predict when a new one is coming.

                      This is really handy and usually quite reliable:
                      http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac 

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • crystalhorizon
                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                        @Michel and @Skulpture thanx for your thoughts! When looking at Macrumors it says to wait for a Macbook Pro upgrade.  742c36-screenshot-2015-07-24-14.06.52.png

                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                        • Fred
                          Fred last edited by

                          @Michel I don't know what the tax rate is in Switzerland but in the Netherlands it is around 23%, I looked around and a year old macbook pro sells for about 80% of its retail price. As I operate a business I can get the tax back from my purchase. So I sell my laptop every year (even if the new model is the same or close to it), I get 80% of the price of a new one, buy a new one for full price with tax, get my 23& tax back and every year I get a new laptop with only a very very small investment.

                          http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                          https://github.com/fred-dev
                          OSX 13.6.4 (22G513) MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
                          Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD

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                          • Michel
                            Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                            @Fred the tax rates are 8% in Switzerland. Your yearly upgrade sounds logic with that high tax rate. Best Michel

                            Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                            • crystalhorizon
                              crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                              @Michel I completely agree with your thoughts, that you want to get a new machine every three-four years. Mine is working and I would get a good price at this moment. So I wait for an offer of a dealer that would take my old machine and give me a new for the money difference.

                              Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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