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    • DusX
      DusX Tech Staff last edited by

      @jhoepffner

      Yes, that confused me once as well. Its a matter of the mutable outputs. They mutate on connection, rather than data input.  A short tutorial on this is in the works... and this was going to be one of the main issues to outline.

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      • mark
        mark last edited by

        I hope to improve this for v2.2. I want to have a little "editor" that allows you to force a particular series of inputs or outputs. More to come. But for now, you can do it the way you just described.

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        • Fred
          Fred last edited by

          Global values!!!! thanks mark

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            Annnnnnnd breathe! Great to get this out to the public. Well done Mark!

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            • Marci
              Marci last edited by

              3154000  Changed how the Javascript actor runs “main()” in order to improve the efficiency when processing multiple simultaneous inputs.

              Could I get a bit of an expansion on the above please? Does this mean a loop of main is no longer triggered for every update to any input...? (Sorry - at work - won't be able to test for myself till this evening)

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              • crystalhorizon
                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                Thanks Mark, great work!

                Great to have Motion Blur FFGL, Aplha Channel FFGL
                While trying the new 3D particles actor, I couldnt find the 3D renderer. Am I missing something?

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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                  3D render is a 'classic' actor so it needs to be turned on in preferences.  12d125-screen-shot-2015-11-03-at-09.13.30.png 483272-screen-shot-2015-11-03-at-09.14.11.png

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                  • crystalhorizon
                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                    Thanks Graham!

                    So the 3D renderer is cpu only?

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      Yeah - but check out "virtual stage". It may help.

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                      • crystalhorizon
                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                        Yes, Virtual Stage does the trick! Thanx!

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          Welcomes :)

                          There are a few actors that you may find hidden. They are not gone but we are strongly suggesting that people try to avoid using them in new projects because of the CPU limitations.

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                          • jhoepffner
                            jhoepffner last edited by

                            Hello,

                            Concerned about subtitle work, I make a try with global values.
                            I have one suggestion, it would be good to have the possibility one actor where you can choose which value you enter and with value you input, instead of list who can be very long (I use sometime subtitle text with 120 entries).
                            I try to do it increasing the name, but is difficult to manage the entries.
                            I send my first try.
                            jacques

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                            • mark
                              mark last edited by

                              @crystalhorizon

                              Yes, use the Virtual Stage. It will run about a  thousand times faster than the 3D Renderer because everything stays on the graphics card.
                              Best Wishes,
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                              • Unfenswinger
                                Unfenswinger last edited by

                                Congratulations Mark. It looks like a stunning update and the roadmap looks very intriguing with the significant hush hush new capabilities on the horizon!

                                Many thanks.

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                                • DusX
                                  DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                  @jhopffner I suggest you break the list up into sub section with logical naming. One great thing about these globals is the way you can group them by name. It allows totally name spaced use in user actors, and let's you break up large lists. Another useful thing is you can use them to pass large sets of data between javascript actors via JSON.

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                                  • DusX
                                    DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                    @Marci I had found a bug were a single main() was called dozens of times per frame because I had 20+ inputs. Each time an input was change the main () was called and processed for this single updated value. The method worked well enough for simple scripts, bit would slow down isadora with complex scripts with many inputs. It now runs in a Controlled manner, allowing the inputs to be updated as expected by the patch before executing. My tests all show this to be running much faster and more reliably. If you had not noticed the problem I mention, you should not notice any difference. How ever moving forward this change will alow you to push harder.

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                                    • mark
                                      mark last edited by

                                      Dear @jhoepffner

                                      I think your idea of being able to select from the group is a good one, and relatively easy implement. We'll add it to the list of requested features, and see if we can get that into v2.2 which will arrive by the end of December.
                                      Best,
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                                      • Marci
                                        Marci last edited by

                                        @dusx had definitely noticed it - figured it was by design so I'd been getting round it by setting a global var to store current time and last time, and if the difference wasn't at least a specified time gap then skip running the main loop. Glad it's been tamed!

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                                        • DusX
                                          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                          @Marci
                                           Perfect work around!

                                          But yes, its much easier to to deal with now, and opens up more CPU time.

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                                          • Armando
                                            Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                                            I saw your a little sad post on fb. You are dong a big piece with dawn and releasing 2.1. Don't even think how you can do it. Big fat round of applause to Mark and the amazing team. I want to stress that. Thanks!!!

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