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    Close range tracking (torso), angle of body

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    • Michel
      Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

      @DusX

      It should not be a problem with the Kinect (not sure how much of the body you see from 2 feet away and how good Kinect is from this short distance, maybe turn the Kincet 90º to get more of the body). Then calculate the angle with the x-value of the hip-center to the x-value of the neck-center.

      Best Michel

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      • DusX
        DusX Tech Staff last edited by

        @michel

        I think I will need to do some kinect tests. Not sure I can get a reliable skeleton that close, even with the Kinect 2.
        I haven't tried it on 90 edge.. I will report back on this.
        Are there any USB webcams that are good for IR work? I can use IR LEDs to light the background.. and workout a silhouette... maybe send out to some openCV script to get orientation.

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        • Michel
          Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

          @DusX

          I don't know any cameras that are good for IR. Sorry.

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          • DusX
            DusX Tech Staff last edited by

            I am thinking a modded ps3 eye.
            Anyone have experience with this?

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            • gapworks
              gapworks last edited by

              I bought a snap on wide angle lens for my kinect. Increases the angle quite a bit!

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              • Aolis
                Aolis last edited by

                Have you tried using the built in Eyes or Eyess++ actors when using a difference actor?

                I was able to very quickly set up a video in watcher->difference=>eyes  and have it easily track my shifting back and forth between standing straight and leaning to the sides. . . With smoothers and some fussing it may do what you need. 

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                • DusX
                  DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                  @Aolis 
                  Eyes is my go to.

                  I need the lighting/contrast to be fool-safe, since this project will be traveling without me.
                  I am going to get a PS eye, and mod it.. it seems easy and low cost.. 
                  As I test it, I will post my results.
                  @gapworks
                  I haven't seen these. Do you have a link to one you could share?

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                  • mark
                    mark last edited by

                    Dear @DusX,

                    Could you use fiducial markers? For instance, if you had the fiducial pattern on the costume, but done it such a way that the fabric does _not_ reflect IR, and the fiducial marker _does_ reflect IR, then you could make it so that the marker was invisible (at least somewhat?) to the naked eye. The benefit to this approach is that fiducial markers give you not only position, but rotation as well.
                    Here's a software that uses fiducial markers.
                    http://reactivision.sourceforge.net
                    Just a thought.
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                    • DusX
                      DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                      @mark, this would be a great approach if I had control over the user, but this is meant to be open to the public to interact with.

                      I am happy if I can get some basic swaying of the users body. 
                      That would suit the interactive element nicely... 
                      so I'm going to test Kinect and the PS eye.
                      Wish me luck.

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                      • mark
                        mark last edited by

                        @DusX -- GOOD LUCK! ;-)

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                        • Fred
                          Fred last edited by

                          If it is just torso angle a gyro and wireless arduino would be easier imho. No tracking just real data.

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                          • Aolis
                            Aolis last edited by

                            Good luck!!! Would love to know if you figure something out that can be as robust as you need. -A

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                            • m_theater
                              m_theater last edited by

                              @DusX

                              after the Werkstatt i tried to mod our ps eye but failed as there are different versions on the market, if you buy one just be aware of this difference.
                              [http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/5189/](http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/5189/)

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                              • Fred
                                Fred last edited by

                                You can take the easy way out (for searching modified PS3 eye IR camera)

                                https://www.peauproductions.com/collections/playstation-eye-products

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                                • DusX
                                  DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                  @Fred

                                  Thanks... I had looked at this site some time back but didn't have the link anymore.
                                  @m_theater 
                                  Helpful piece of information for sure... thanks.

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                                  • gapworks
                                    gapworks last edited by

                                    @DusX this is the one i ´m using

                                    http://nyko.com/collections/xbox-360/products/xbox-360-zoom-for-kinect

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                                    • DusX
                                      DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                      @gapworks

                                      Thanks.. that cool.

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