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    Intermittent flashes of black during HAP avi playback (Directshow)

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    • Skulpture
      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

      Is the black flash at specific times in the video or random?

      Just thinking is the file in question glitchy and need exporting again? 

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      • DusX
        DusX Tech Staff last edited by

        Yes. I wonder what you used to make the Hap avi's?

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        • Skulpture
          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

          @DusX wasn't there an issue with what software you use to export to HAP?

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          • DusX
            DusX Tech Staff last edited by

            I have only had success with Sony Vegas (any of the versions) and virtualdub

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              Deluxercor last edited by

              I installed the codec from http://renderheads.com/product/hap-for-directshow/

              Then I sucessfully rendered out all my 80 HAP files all with audio and some with alpha using After Effects CS6.
              The glitches (black flashes) don't always happen. And sometimes the whole sequence plays right the way through without any black flashes. But always after I've played the sequence through a few times back and forth (as I have interactive elements)  the video playback become glitchy - but never the same bits of the video so it's random. Could it be when Isadora drops a frame then it shows black instead of just hanging for a frame or so?
              I've also noticed my stage occasionally goes black completely and then the software crashes and becomes non responsive.  (I then have to ctrl + alt + del to get out) 

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              • DusX
                DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                Please submit a support request (link in my signature) and I will have a look at your files.

                Since this is a new codec that is being supported I suspect its file related, but its best to work through it in support.
                If you can share some of the videos, please provide a download link in the support request.

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                • D
                  Deluxercor last edited by

                  @DusX ok, I've sent report via the link

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                  • DusX
                    DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                    Yes, I have the ticket and your hap files. Running a number of test now.
                    Expect an update to the support ticket soon.

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      I'd be interested to hear the result of this also :)

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                      • C
                        Columnisys last edited by

                        hi man, 

                        I am not sure whether your problem is the same as  I encountered  before,  I also encountered AVI and the system can not be compatible,it is always splashing when I play video, and it is similar to "I'm playing the files off a solid state drive and my spec on two different PCs is pretty good " and then I found an article is to solve the AVI compatibility issues http://www.videoconverterfactory.com/tips/avi-on-android.html, You can take a look, may be helpful to you

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                        • Fred
                          Fred last edited by

                          Yes, there is a problem with the way isadora grabs the texture, I use a flip actor after the movie player but dont flip anything and it works fine. I made a bug report some time ago but it got no attention. Also you will find that you can only load 75 times and then Isadora will crash. Mark made a fix but the load took several seconds so it was unusable. Just restart Izzy before your show as long as you dont have 75 scene changes with video you are ok. I am using it now and apart from Izzy messing up, the underlying HAP AVI direct show performance is great.

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                          • Fred
                            Fred @DusX last edited by

                            @DusX I have been in contact with renderheads, thier codec is aritight and was tested thouroughly for production. Several other high end workflows are relying on it, there is no problem with the codec, the render heads codec is onyl used to give encoding capability. The issues lie with Isadora, I have been in touch with Mark about this, hopefully after the werkstat he can get this running properly. To be honest HAP Direct show playback gives Isadora the best capability for the future, the best performance I have seen on windows.

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                              Deluxercor last edited by

                              Hi, I know this topic is old but I was wondering if this issue with HAP avi was now resolved with version 2.6?

                              PC 1: Win10 Home, 64bit, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4910MQ CPU @ 2.90ghz, 32gb RAM, Isadora 2.5.1(usb)

                              PC 2: Win10 Pro, 64bit, Intel (R) Core (TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67ghx, 12gb RAM, Isadora 2.5.1 (usb)

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                              • mark
                                mark @Deluxercor last edited by mark

                                @deluxercor

                                I am 99% sure it is resolved. @DusX and @Fred please verify, and then I'll renamed the topic as [SOLVED].

                                Best Wishes,
                                Mark

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