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    ​Isadora freeze on startup (Windows 10)

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      vjw @dgaddy last edited by

      @dgaddyThanks - I'll give that a try.

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        arvog last edited by

        Inspired by @dgaddy 's comment I had a look into my AMD graphics driver again and found a solution that works for me so far. 

        After an update of my Radeon driver from 18.3.1 to 18.3.3 one setting now solves the problem: Switching "Wait for Vertical Refresh" from the default "Off, Unless Application Specifies" to "Always Off". I think there must be a conflict in handling OpenGL.

        Thanks for everyone's input in this thread, I can now go on and actually test Isadora. :)

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        • Pascal
          Pascal last edited by

          hello,

          i have the same problem on my new laptop when I launch Isadora with external monitor or videoprojector on windows10 with a gtx 1060 and an intel graphic card. (displaying "Cycles 999.9 FPS 99.9").

          best

          Pascal

          http://lematrice.over-blog.com/

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          • DusX
            DusX Tech Staff @Pascal last edited by

            @pascal

            Have you gone to your NVidia control panel, under 3d settings / manage 3d settings / program settings tab, and set Isadora.exe to only use the dedicated/high performance graphics card?
            This setting solves problems with Spout video sharing, and may be required on laptops that have NVidia optimus or the equivalent AMD power saving feature. 

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            • Pascal
              Pascal last edited by

              @DusX .....Done and it seems to resolve the problem : Un grand merci à toi pour tes conseils et ta générosité.

              Best,

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              • jaimun
                jaimun last edited by

                @pascal said:

                unch Isadora with external monitor or videoprojector on windows10 with a gtx 1060 and an intel graphic card. (displaying "Cycles 999.9 FPS 99.9").

                 I am having the same problems, testing my Laptop Win10 + GTX960.

                If I start Isadorra with external monitor connected, it hangs with a white screen on both monitors.

                I've tried all possible solutions mentioned here, no luck.

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                • Woland
                  Woland Tech Staff @jaimun last edited by

                  @jaimun

                  Please use the link in my or @DusX 's signature to file a support ticket.


                  Best wishes,


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                  • jaimun
                    jaimun @Woland last edited by

                    @woland

                    SOLVED

                    I had several problems with other software too, when playing video on the external HDMI output.

                    The problem is a process installed by MSI software: "NahimicMSISvc32.exe"

                    Just kill this process and Isadora opens flawlessly, opening the Stage fullscreen on the second monitor.

                    Thanks Ryan Webber for your advice. It was "a shot in the dark", but it worked!

                    Now I've rememebered I used to have a "clean.bat" batch file in my previous laptop, just for performing live with Isadora. 

                    So I made a new one, killing most of the unnecessary processes (for live acts).

                    Here it is, in case someone finds it useful:

                    echo on
                    title LIVE setup: spring cleaning
                    echo 
                    echo Live SETUP
                    echo
                    echo Killing nasty processes
                    echo
                    taskkill /f /im "Dragon Gaming Center.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "NahimicMSIUILauncher.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "SCM.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "Silent Option.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "XMouseButtonControl.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "MSIService.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "NahimicMSISvc64.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "NahimicMSISvc32.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "QMxNetworkSync.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "mic_mute.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "SteelSeriesEngine3.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "AGSService.exe"
                    taskkill /f /im "ShareX.exe"
                    pause

                    I am so HAPPY !

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                    • Maximortal
                      Maximortal last edited by

                      I have this problem on my laptop every time W10 get a mayor udpate (anniversaty, creative and so on) only way found is to uninstall through DDU all video drivers and then install newest. This solve every time this bug on my laptop 

                      Iro Suraci | Win 10 - Ryzen 3600 - 32GB - nVidia gtx 960 4gb / Win 10 - i5 4210U - 8 GB - R5 M230 | Isadora 3.0.7| Located in Brescia, Italy

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                      • jhoepffner
                        jhoepffner last edited by

                        Hello,


                        I just bought a windows laptop (MSI GS65 stealth with GTX1070) and I had the same problems: Isadora crashing with white screen, DaVinci resolve crashing, TouchDesigner crashing I have searched ruring 5 days and the solution of killing Nahimi is working perfectly, thanks to everibody. All is tipTop now.

                        Jacques

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                          DusX Tech Staff @jhoepffner last edited by

                          @jhoepffner
                          I had a user recently with a MSI, same problem, and same solution (he posted to the forum somewhere to document it).

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                          • jhoepffner
                            jhoepffner last edited by Michel

                            Hello,

                            Here is the updated batch app for killing msi nahimic (the main culprit of white screen)

                            echo on
                            title LIVE setup: spring cleaning
                            echo echo Live SETUP
                            echo
                            echo Killing nasty processes
                            echo
                            taskkill /f /im "NahimicService.exe"
                            taskkill /f /im "NahimicSvc32.exe"
                            taskkill /f /im "NahimicSvc64.exe"
                            taskkill /f /im "MSIService.exe"
                            taskkill /f /im "AGSService.exe"
                            taskkill /f /im "ShareX.exe"
                            pause

                            Hope that helps

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                            MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                            MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                              vjw last edited by

                              It's happening again.  Isadora 2.6.1 worked fine all day and tonight won't initialize.  I get the same freeze on startup: 999.9 cycles, etc.  I don't have Nahimic, optimized my NVidia graphics months ago.  Any other solutions?

                              PC Win10 64bit, Intel i7 2.8GHz Izz 2.6.1, 3.07 Choreographer and adventurer www.comotion.org

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                              • DusX
                                DusX Tech Staff @vjw last edited by

                                @vjw

                                If Isadora was working in the morning it is very unlikely the new problem is with Isadora.
                                The application folder doesn't have any thing that changes, so it could really only be something external.

                                Have you installed anything today?
                                Have you tried clearing your preference file?
                                Move your Freeframe, GLSL files, and Global User Actors? (so that they do not load on startup)

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