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      moritz2104 last edited by

      Hey Simon!

      Thanks for your answer, you're awesome! 
      Yes, the edits during the process is exactly the matter, and xml sounds real handy, as the assistant could change things real fast that way... So, who's Nick? I'd be grateful to get to know more about your _fabulous quartz composer patch._ Sounds fancy! It's not in the quartz-presets, right?
      Warmly, Moritz
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        nick last edited by

        the issue we had was the play was new writing so was being written and edited through rehearsal, and lines were being changed between performances as well, so the system had to be editable by the stage manager while the show toured.

        at the time (this was a few years ago) we used a quartz composer patch to read a text file - a limitation of quartz composer was that it would only read an xml file, which was a pain for a non technical person to edit, but was possible.
        we used qc as osc in Isadora did not support text. On the next show we worked on together it did so I used processing to read plain text files (and save them), and send text to isadora over osc. This can run on the same machine, or another machine connected over ethernet

        MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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          nick last edited by

          we had an issue with line breaks - had to enter them as a code rather than a character, dont have it in front of me so dont remember what we had to use but could dig it out tomorrow

          MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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            moritz2104 last edited by

            same here, the play is still being written and it's most probably going to change during the tour, and i'm not going to be around all the time...

            so, apparently osc can do the job by itself? - osc listener in text mode.... _man!!!_ i haven't seen that before!
            ok cool, i'll check it out - no sunday!
            M
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              nick last edited by

              osc actor can receive the text in isadora - you need something that is sending the text over osc

              MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                moritz2104 last edited by

                ... working on it ...

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                  moritz2104 last edited by

                  Hi together, 

                  I found a [threat](http://forum.troikatronix.com/forum/Isadora_C2/User_Patches,_Tips_%26_Tricks_F7/Text_to_OSC_P13708/) in the old forum. There's an app called text_osc which looks exactly like what i'm looking for, but doesn't run properly on my machine. (osX10.8, 2,4 GHz, i7)
                  And apparently _guru_ Mark is working on something to read unicode text files in Isadora !?.... coming soon? I think it's about time... ;-)
                  Nick, what do you mean "so I used processing to read plain text files" - what kind of processing? Maybe my english sucks here...
                  For everybody with the same issue - this thread is going to bring some light into the dark very soon!  -  (this just to encourage myself)
                  Moritz
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                    simon last edited by

                    http://processing.org/
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                      moritz2104 last edited by

                      Hey Nick,

                      if it doesn't bother you, could you dig out the code for me?
                      Thanks Simon for the link - real cool, another program to learn! Yehaa.
                      Best, Moritz
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                        nick last edited by

                        Hi Moritz

                        Heres the quartz composer patch and an isadora patch that used it. you need the core video izzy version to use it. The quartz composer patch still works, but isnt working in isadora - dont know why and dont have the time to dig. is there anything thats changed in quartz composer support?
                        Had to zip the quartz and xml file to get them to upload.
                        basic xml loading needs to be at the root drive level
                        example izzy patch has a control panel for cueing the subtitles (but does not seem to work at the moment  as I said)

                        c2109a-basic-xml-loading.xml.zip e925a0-subtitles.izz 6aaf77-izzy-with-numbers.zip

                        MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                          nick last edited by

                          this one does work - dont know why the other doesnt . This uses same xml file. Picture needs to be added to quartz input to get the patch to processe79846-subtitle-basic.zip 6c94ec-basic-works.izz

                          MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                            nick last edited by

                            the processing app does lots of other things as well (talking to an arduino board, sending tweets from the show), so I've made something really basic that will show you how to do it.

                            subtitles.txt needs to be at root level again
                            in the quatrz xml file   produces a new line in isadora, doesnt work through the processing route ( gets displayed)

                            so quartz can make multiple lines in isadora from a single entry, but the xml fileis more fiddly to edit

                            processing works from a plain text file, but dont know a way to simply produce multiple lines in isadora

                            processing example includes source file, you will need the oscp5 library to work with the source in processing

                            8a0b34-subtitles.txt 840ad7-application.macosx.zip

                            MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                              nick last edited by

                              oh and heres an izzy actor that works with the processing sketch (izzy osc port needs to be set to 1234 - this is the default setting, so if youve never changed it then there is nothing needs doing) e204ae-subtitles.iua

                              MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                                nick last edited by

                                it would be fairly easy to write a processing sketch that read multiple lines - until it sees an empty line - these lines could each be sent over seperate osc channels - stepping to the next line would be easy, jumping about to different points in the text would be hard (you wouldnt know what number line it was in the file, as each block could be a different size).

                                blablablablablabla sent on /isadora/1
                                blablablablablabla _first block  _sent on /isadora/2
                                blablablablablabla sent on /isadora/3
                                blablablablablabla sent on /isadora/1
                                blablablablablabla _second block _sent on /isadora/2
                                blablablablablabla _third block ..... _sent on /isadora/1
                                let me know if you are interested in anything like that and we should maybe talk off the forum

                                MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                                  Alexserrano last edited by

                                  Does anybody if it's possible to work with a srt (subtitles) archive with any Isadora plugin?

                                  The point is that I want to project subtitles but synchronized with a timecode…
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                                  • jhoepffner
                                    jhoepffner last edited by

                                    Personaly, I use a quicktime text movie, you can use belle-nuit subtitle software to translate .srt to quickTime text and then QuickTime 7 pro to obtain a QT movie. You can also write the QT text yourself, using text edit.

                                    Played in Isadora, you can activate the text track and use text/draw actor to screen it.
                                    If you need to slave it to entering timecode, as MTC, you can use MTC reader.
                                    I send you a patch in Isadora (pre-release version), with subtitles in text and QT.
                                    A little bit easier…
                                    Hope that helps,
                                    jhoepffner

                                    e06b98-testsubtitles.zip

                                    Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
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                                    • jhoepffner
                                      jhoepffner last edited by

                                      Hello,

                                      I just work on a subtitle reader, very easy to use, with the great help of ReadTextFromFile.
                                      I join a sample with a text. Feel free to use and correct it.
                                      You need the real file path, not relative (use terminal to find it).
                                      The text file must be encoded in Mac Os Latin with Unix line breaks
                                      Each ST is 3 lines, first empty or with for italics, second with text, third with text or empty.
                                      Hope that help,
                                      Jacques Hoepffner

                                      18dfcf-streader.zip

                                      Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                                      GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                                      MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                                      MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
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                                      • Bodo
                                        Bodo last edited by

                                        Hello jhoepffner,

                                        great tool the STreader - can you explain how to find the real file path of the textfile in the terminal - i took the path from the finder and put it in the -trigger text- actor - but like you said it doesn`t work

                                        thank you!
                                        ciao Bodo

                                        MacPro Late 2013 OSX 10.13., Izzy 2.6.1

                                        http://studio6.berlin

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                                        • jhoepffner
                                          jhoepffner last edited by

                                          Hello Bodo,

                                          You open the terminal, you drag and drop the file in the terminal, it give you the full path of your file.
                                          Copy and paste.
                                          That's all…
                                          Jacques

                                          Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                                          GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                                          MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                                          MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                                          MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                                            Javier last edited by

                                            Bonjour Jacques,

                                            J'ai un projet de théâtre en multi-écran/ sous titres mais je ne comprend pas l'histoire avec le terminal et le real file path.
                                            J'utilise ISADORA 10.5.3 en pre release et version démo.
                                            Lorsque j'ouvre l'actor cette fenêtre apparait .
                                            Merci pour l'aide , je suis débutant ...
                                            Translated by @skulpture
                                            _I have a project of multi-screen theater / subtitles but I do not understand the story with the terminal and the real file path. _
                                            _I use 10.5.3 ISADORA in pre release and demo. _
                                            _When I open the actor window appears. _
                                            _Thank you for the help, I am a beginner ..._
                                            Xavier
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