Audio Features for Isadora: What Do You Want?

gunther

@mark: It sounds very promising what you intend to program for the next level of Isadora! I like every single improvement in the sound features you plan. I also think that the priorities you sketched are very reasonable.

A little note to all the improvements to come: I tried to build a Sound Player that has outputs "position" and "loop end". I know for sure this comes years too late, but anyway: Here is a "Sound Player plus" actor with outputs! It is made on top of the original Sound Player actor, combined with a timer and a couple of Javascript lines. Of course it's not perfect, but it works. It has the same inputs as the original Sound Player, except for the "play length" input, which I changed to "play stop". That helped to make the Javascript file easier.

Maybe one of you has some need for it while Isadora-3.1 is on the way...

Sound Player plus

mark

@gunther said:

Maybe one of you has some need for it while Isadora-3.1 is on the way...

Thank you so much for the offer. But I finished updating the Sound Player actor outputs two days ago and added @Michel 's wish of 24 bit playback yesterday. That was the simple part!

Best Wishes,
Mark

bonemap

@mark

Your plans for 3.1 audio upgrade sound great. I am particularly interested to see the outcome of the interactive audio routing system - because I can already imagine implementing this in my projects.

You haven’t mentioned integrating timecode or a waveform monitor for the Sound Player are either of these features on the cards?

Best wishes

Russell

mark

Dear All,

To whet your appetite, this is what I did over the holidays: 24, 16 and 8 bit AIFF or WAV files with any number of channels, and now the new Matrix Routing input shown below. Working well on macOS, now heading for Windows.

Happy New Year (almost)!
Mark

RIL

@mark that is great news !! Happy new year for you too (almost)

Maxi Wille

deflost

hello,

thank you for holding on while christmastime.

do you think it´s possible to route the "speak text" actor also on windows?

thx.

r.h.

jfg

@ mark look fantastic.

happy new year

Jean-François

mark

@deflost said:

do you think it´s possible to route the "speak text" actor also on windows?

Well, I would have to find a way to intercept the samples and then route them. I doubt that this is easy, which means I cannot assign a high priority to this given that it is a feature that not so many people use. Let's keep it in mind for a future version.

Best Wishes,
Mark

deflost

@mark

this would be great, because it´s one of the favorite actors by our kds workshops, they love it to let the machines speak!

thx.

r.h.

mark

@deflost said:

this would be great, because it´s one of the favorite actors by our kds workshops, they love it to let the machines speak!

But do they really need to route to to a multichannel output?? Seems a bit sophisticated for kids.

Best Wishes,
Mark

deflost

@mark

not really, but sometimes it is a little bit depressing that there is no way to do left right or front back things with it!

thx.

r.h.

mark

@deflost said:

not really, but sometimes it is a little bit depressing that there is no way to do left right or front back things with it!

Sorry... I read "kds workshops" as "kids workshops" -- I thought they were workshops for children.

deflost

@mark

you read absolutly right, children. the most of them are around 8 to 12 or 16 to 20, we work a lot

with them in a cooperation with their schools.

we do every kind of "new media" stuff with them.

so in some situations, in special for theatre like performance stuff, they are very accurate

with things that have to be logic. so when they want to let the machine speak out come in,

then please from the right side, and when the bad witch calls from back outside the building, then of course they ask

why we don´t use bluetooth or something like that.........and so on.

but so they learn much about physical audio mixing consoles and this kind of stuff.

so another thx for your work.

r.h.

mark

Dear All,

I hope you're enjoying your jump into 2020.

I'm exploring if and how the volume at the crosspoints of the Matrix Router should be displayed. On one hand, it's handy to see it and for sure when you are adjusting the volume, the circle getting biggger/smaller gives you strong visual feedback about which item you're editing. For sure, when no routings are selected the volume circles should not be shown. But maybe it gets too cluttered when you make a multiple selection? I could make it so that the volume circle only shows when there a single routing is selected.

I'd be curious to hear your reactions.

Also, as you can see, I've gotten this to be this to be bit more compact than you saw in the first GIF I shared before. But I can also anticipate that having more than 16 channels of output is going to make for a very tall user interface element... do people use more than 16 channel output devices on a regular basis?

Best Wishes,
Mark

CitizenJoe

@mark

Hi Mark, Happy New Year!

Here's a thought: that the squares that are the numbers across the top grow into rectangles to indicate the volume level. They could even change colour, just like a VU meter!

Cheers,

Hugh

mark

@citizenjoe said:

Here's a thought: that the squares that are the numbers across the top grow into rectangles to indicate the volume level. They could even change colour, just like a VU meter!

Thank you... intersting idea. The disadvantage being, if you are routing the same channel to many outputs, you wouldn't know the individual volumes for each output.

Best Wishes,
Mark

CitizenJoe

@mark maybe do it on the outputs, then?

Cheers,

Hugh

Maximortal

@mark I prefere numerical values (dB) shown close to output number box, is more precise in professional enviroment where gain structure is foundamental.

mark

@maximortal said:

I prefere numerical values (dB) shown close to output number box, is more precise in professional enviroment where gain structure is foundamental.

Well, I'm going to add an option for all volume values _everywher_ to be in dB -- so don't worry about that part for now.

But when you and @CitizenJoe say the numbers should be near the outputs, do you understand that that every routing has an individual volume control?

In left picture below, channel 2 is routed to output 2 with a volume of 100%. In the right picture, you see that channel 4 is also routed to output 2, but it's volume is 50%.

So, for a given output there can be multiple volume settings -- one for each source channel. How would you propose to indicate more than one volume setting at the output?

Best Wishes,
Mmark

deflost

hello,

we talked a lot to our audio freaks. and they told us to prefer also numbers, because it is more compatible to the

audio world.

r.h