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    [ANSWERED] Start Syphon recording from inside a stage?

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    • jfg
      jfg @Notdoc last edited by

      @Notdoc

      you can use a QC KeyEventEmulator (https://github.com/zebradog/QC...) to start Syphon recording.

      here a user actor I made for that purpose:

      best

      Jean-François 

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      • Notdoc
        Notdoc @jfg last edited by

        @jfg


        wow, thanks for quick reply. I'm not quite sure how to get to that point from the github download, but i will try...i may ask more questions here...

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        • Notdoc
          Notdoc @jfg last edited by

          @jfg

          it's a bit out of reach for me, i'm afraid... i'm not really adept with coding. I'm mostly an end-user. But thanks anyway

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          • jfg
            jfg @Notdoc last edited by jfg

            @Notdoc

            in this thread Michel give a link to download the QC composition: https://community.troikatronix...

            Read all the post to correctly install it.

            best

            Jean-François

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            • Notdoc
              Notdoc @jfg last edited by

              @jfg

              cool. thanks v much

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              • Notdoc
                Notdoc @jfg last edited by

                @jfg


                Yay! it works! 

                merci de votre assistance. je suis très heureux!

                woohoo

                :-)

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                • Notdoc
                  Notdoc @jfg last edited by

                  @jfg

                  Hi Jean-Francois, can i ask a bit more about this?

                  I've recreated your User Actor, I'm not quite sure how it works. I'm able to start & stop Syphon recording with "Option+Command+ 'r' ' keyboard commands now (which is great) , but I'm not able to automate the start-stop from within the stage and to assign it to other actors etc.

                  thanks

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                  • jfg
                    jfg @Notdoc last edited by jfg

                    @Notdoc

                    I am not sure to understand where your problem is…

                    if you activate the trigger for record, the record will start. You can use the same trigger to activate something else like a trigger value actor or a player.

                    best

                    Jean-François

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                    • Notdoc
                      Notdoc @jfg last edited by

                      @jfg

                      thanks.

                       Is that 'Syphon Recorder 2' Actor your own User Actor? 

                      I have Syphon Receiver' and 'Syphon Stage Output' Actors, but not a 'Syphon Recorder'.


                      I re-created the version you showed previously, but the trigger failed to activate Syphon recording...

                      I feel sure I'm missing something really obvious...

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                      • jfg
                        jfg @Notdoc last edited by jfg

                        @Notdoc

                        Yes, it is the user actor I show in my first answer.

                        It could have two causes:

                        - Syphon Recorder must run

                        - you need to activate "Syphon" in Menu Output/Stage setup


                        best

                        Jean-François

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                        • Notdoc
                          Notdoc @jfg last edited by

                          @jfg

                          thanks, sorry my mistake I didn't understand your second image. Now I do... 

                          But i'm still not having success. Syphon is activated in the Stage prefs, and the 'option+command+'r' keystrokes start recording no problem... but the User Actor I am copying from your example is not working for me. Here it is, maybe I am missing something? 

                          TBH I don't really understand how the actor is supposed to work, as manually flipping the 'Trigger Event' from 'Off' to 'On' doesn't begin recording either. But the keystrokes do. I'm baffled.

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                          • jfg
                            jfg @Notdoc last edited by

                            @Notdoc

                             If Syphon Recorder is open and syphon activated in the Stage Setup, the 'option+command+'r' keystrokes works anyway also without any actor.

                            If the manually flipping the trigger Event doesn't work, you haven't correctly installed the QC KeyeventEmulator or there is a problem with authorization in Catalina. or the  QC KeyEventEmulator is 32bit.

                            I use still Mojave on both computer and have no Idea about Catalina.

                            best

                            Jean-François

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                            • jfg
                              jfg @Notdoc last edited by

                              @notdoc

                              QC keyeventemulatoI nstallation

                              There are two different files to download:


                              13d8d0-keyeventemulator.zip 38f248-keyeventemulator.plugin.zip

                              move the KeyEventEmulator to this place :
                              /Library/composition

                              and  the KeyEventEmulator.plugin to this place:
                              /Library/Graphics/Quartz Composer Plug-Ins/

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                              • Notdoc
                                Notdoc @jfg last edited by Notdoc

                                @jfg

                                ok, so this is not a Syphon problem, it's about getting the Key Event Emulator working. I didn't understand that until now. But I have installed it as you describe...if i understand correctly, this should be here:


                                and this here:


                                and if this Actor looks like this..:


                                ...then Syphon Recorder should be recording, and when it's like this..:


                                ...it should stop..?

                                Currently that isn't happening for me, although the Syphon Recorder is otherwise working fine, switched on, responds to manual keystrokes etc. 

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                                • jfg
                                  jfg @Notdoc last edited by jfg

                                  @notdoc said:

                                  and if this Actor looks like this..: ...then Syphon Recorder should be recording, and when it's like this..: ...it should stop..?

                                   Not really. You have to switch the "trigger Event" input to on then to off like you can see in my user actor:

                                  Trigger value 1 > Trigger delay > trigger value 0

                                  It is a strange behavior of the QC KeyEventEmulator actor, I think it is because it simulate a keyevent. We except a trigger or as you discribe on for record and off for stop. But if you look on the Syphon Recorder you use also the same keystroke for record and stop record. Here it is the same: Record= on then off, stop record=on then off both in a short time (0,1 s)

                                  Perhaps it is better to understand with this construction:

                                  best

                                  Jean-François

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                                  • Notdoc
                                    Notdoc @jfg last edited by

                                    @jfg

                                    Thanks, I really appreciate the effort you are making with this. 

                                    Unfortunately it is still not working, even after I re-created the nice simple set-up you have shown with the Wave Generator, and the 10Hz square wave. I can see it flipping the on/off but Syphon is not triggered.

                                     Maybe it's a Catalina problem. It's frustrating, as I really need to trigger Syphon recording with more precision than the keystrokes permit, as it will save endless fiddling about in Premiere afterwards.

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                                      jandraka @Notdoc last edited by

                                      @notdoc

                                      Hi,

                                      You can try this app http://charlie-roberts.com/mid...  that converts midi events into keystrokes. It works in Catalina and triggers the recording in Syphon Recorder.
                                      I hope it helps you.
                                      Javi

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                                        Notdoc @jandraka last edited by

                                        @jandraka

                                        thanks, that will be a useful workaround. Very helpful.

                                        But I would still be curious to know if any Catalina users are able to use the QC KeyEventEmulator...

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