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    • CitizenJoe
      CitizenJoe last edited by

      For my next project, I'd like to use 3 live cameras coming into Isadora and then output to 8 unique "screens" (some projectors, some actual screens). This is a show about multiple live and recorded sources being mixed together and output to multiple screens/locations. 

      DeckLink Quad 2 – Tech Specs | Blackmagic Design

      ATEM Mini – Tech Specs | Blackmagic Design

      My current thought is to use:
      1.  BM ATEM Extreme ISO for the first input, mostly for the built in green screen capabilities and the fact that it becomes a USB input. This will have it's own control computer to feed the green screen video and so on and takes that load off of the Isadora computer; 
      2. 2 of the channels on the Decklink as the other 2 inputs;
      3. 6 of the channels on the decklink as  6 outputs;
      4. 2 of the outputs from the GPU as the remaining 2 outputs;
      5. (1 output from the GPU for the control monitor).

      Let's assume that we're not worried about the Isadora computer specs: Intel i9 12th Gen (i9-12900KF), 64GB 5600Mhz DDR5, 2x M.2 NVMe PCI-E SSD, GeForce RTX 3080 Ti VISION OC (LHR) 12GB. Windows 10 Pro.

      Do any of you have any experience with any of these specific pieces of hardware? Any pitfalls or other thoughts that you'd be willing to share? 

      Thanks for any thoughts you may have!

      Cheers,

      Hugh

      Hugh in Winnipeg - All test machines, Win10/11 Pro, 64 bit, OS SSD and separate data SSD.
      Dell 7560, i9 11950H, 64 gigs, NVIDIA RTX A4000 w/8 GB GDDR6

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      • Juriaan
        Juriaan Tech Staff @CitizenJoe last edited by Juriaan

        @citizenjoe

        Hi there!

        I used an Decklink Quad 2 in an touring show (140 shows across different venues) which used an similar speced PC. The main thing that I saw with using the hardware is that 5% of the time your hardware is not seen by Windows / Isadora when you start up your show. During the show it is solid, but during init it may happen that you have to restart Isadora or Windows

        Please reach out to Technical support to get the latest information regarding which version of the Blackmagic SDK you should install and which version of Isadora 3.x. I'm not totally sure or that makes an difference, but like anything with so many components one thing is key; TESTING TESTING TESTING. I seriously can't stress this enough.

        Other then that a few tips that I have;

        1. Have an init scene that creates test images for every single screen / output / input that verifys that you are solid.
        2. Display order matters in this kind of configs! Either have an solid init process or use so called EDID emulator plugs to make sure that every single screen has the same Display ID / order ever single time that you plug them in
        3. Label those little connectors from Mini BNC to BNC.. And please unplug them every single time / have a few spare on hand because they are quite fragile if you dont take care of them.

        Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
        Interactive Performance Designer, Freelance Artist, Scenographer, Lighting Designer, TroikaTronix Community moderator
        Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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        • DusX
          DusX Tech Staff @CitizenJoe last edited by

          @citizenjoe

          The latest Isadora release (coming VERY soon) fixes some problems with BM capture. Please read the release notes.

          Like @Juriaan I recommend getting the hardware early, and testing heavily before you build fully. Feel free to open a support ticket or DM me if you have any questions.

          Troikatronix Technical Support

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          • CitizenJoe
            CitizenJoe last edited by

            Thank you to you both!

            @Juriaan, do you have a particular EDID emulator that you would recommend? I have had troubles with display order in the past with these large setups, as Ryan can attest! 

            @DusX, I will do that, thank you.

            As you both say, test, TesT, TEST!

            Cheers,

            HUgh

            Hugh in Winnipeg - All test machines, Win10/11 Pro, 64 bit, OS SSD and separate data SSD.
            Dell 7560, i9 11950H, 64 gigs, NVIDIA RTX A4000 w/8 GB GDDR6

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            • DusX
              DusX Tech Staff @CitizenJoe last edited by

              @citizenjoe

              Just posted the Isadora update with the BM fixes. (Isadora 3.2.4)

              Troikatronix Technical Support

              • New Support Ticket Link: https://support.troikatronix.com/support/tickets/new
              • My Add-ons: https://troikatronix.com/add-ons/?u=dusx
              • Profession Services: https://support.troikatronix.com/support/solutions/articles/13000109444-professional-services

              Running: Win 11 64bit, i7, M.2 PCIe SSD's, 32gb DDR4, nVidia GTX 4070 | located in Ontario Canada.

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