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    • cristina_spelti
      cristina_spelti last edited by

      Hi all,

      i know this is a trivial question but I hope someone can give me an answer.
      I should just use Isadora to simultaneous playback of two movies in two projectors 1024X768.
      To get the best picture quality possible (within the 25fps) as Quick Time codec should I use? And what preferences setting?

      Thanks for the help

      Cristina

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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        It depends on your machines performance/specs really.

        A safe bet is MJPEG (Motion JPEG) at 70% Quality.
        BUT Isadora can play ProRes quite happily with a little bit of help from a fast drive; ideally a SSD (solid state)
        It also depends on the projectors you are using (the hardware projectors) a good projector will upscale your image for you meaning you can use smaller files, but as a good rule of thumb its wise to keep the sizes the same if you can.
        Hope this helps for now.

        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
        RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
        RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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        • vanakaru
          vanakaru last edited by

          So far Apple PhotoJPG 70-85% has been the recommended one. I have been using Apple Intermediate Codec as well successfully.

          If you need transparency(alpha channel) Resolumes DXV codec performs the best.
          There has been some good info about preferences recently here. The main thing is to match the frame rate of your media with Target frame rate - or vice versa.

          MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            Are Motion JPEG and Photo JPEG very similar performance wise? I've never actually looked into it.

            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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            • Michel
              Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

              Whats the difference of Motion JPEG and Photo JPEG?
              The web says:
              MJPEG codecs compress fields separately and downsample chroma horizontally means they will deliver better quality results from interlaced footage. Photo JPEG does not compress fields separately and downsamples chroma vertically, which can lead to field mush when used with interlaced footage.

              So if you use interlaced footage go for Motion JPEG if you use progressiv footage use Photo JPEG, thats the one people have made good experiences when using Isadora.

              Best,
              Michel

              Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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              • cristina_spelti
                cristina_spelti last edited by

                Thank you Skulpture and Vanakaru !!

                I use Mac Pro 2x2.66 Ghz dual-core intel xeon, with 8Gb system ram, SSD disk, graphic card ATI Radeon X1900XT
                and two projectors Sanyo PLC-XF47.

                I exported the movie in mjpg and in photojpg (1024X768, 25fps) but simultaneous playback go to 8fps :-(

                I attach files with set-up preferences.
                What's wrong?

                thanks
                Cristina

                c1dea4-preferenze-1.jpg a239d5-preferenze-2.jpg

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                • keftaparty
                  keftaparty last edited by

                  Hi Cristina,

                  Are you just playing back the movies ? no effects etc ?
                  With your setup and out of a ssd I think you should even be able to use ProRes.
                  In any case, the direct playback of two movies of this resolution should run smooth on your computer.
                  A screenshot of your patch can be nice to help you.
                  Best
                  Mehdi

                  ...
                  Mehdi Toutain-Lopez
                  www.toutain-lopez.com

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                  • cristina_spelti
                    cristina_spelti last edited by

                    Hi Mehdi,
                    i attach my screenshot patch...

                    Mille grazie
                    Crisitna

                    3ddc9d-maxmara.jpg

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                    • vanakaru
                      vanakaru last edited by

                      What is on your General tab in preferences? When I run your patch I get 8fps as well and CPU stay low and VPO is only 85.

                      However if I run CIMovie Player to CIProjector on two stages I get CPU 85, VPO 30 and 25fps.

                      56d21a-pref.jpg

                      MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                      • cristina_spelti
                        cristina_spelti last edited by

                        Hi,
                        i attach my preference screenshot...
                        but what is the difference between an actor "normal" and a CI?

                        thanks
                        Cri

                        33faf9-schermata-2012-11-21-a-10.54.44.png

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          This may shed some light; its an optional upgrade

                          [http://vjskulpture.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/what-is-isadora-core/](http://vjskulpture.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/what-is-isadora-core/)
                          And scroll down to 'upgrades' here:
                          [http://troikatronix.com/support/faq/](http://troikatronix.com/support/faq/)

                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          • cristina_spelti
                            cristina_spelti last edited by

                            Thanks... i buy and test CI now

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