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    Motion Control Particles (e-motion software)

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    • mark
      mark last edited by

      Link for eMotion please... google just brings up references to "emition", i.e., the feeling.

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        @Mark 

        http://www.am-cb.net/emotion

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        • mark
          mark last edited by

          Thanks G. Will take a look to see if it has Syphon or some other way to access it.

          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            Its heavily Quartz Based so the possibility of using Syphon will be very high. 

            It looks like its been updated since I last used it so maybe its a bit more user friendly these days. I remember when I used it over a year ago I looked for the Quartz Composition location but it was not file based like Izzy.

            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
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            • mark
              mark last edited by

              Well, looking through the menus I don't see options to get data (or images) in or out. I may be quartz based at some level, but it's a proper application -- i.e., it's not a quartz patch you can somehow deconstruct or get access to.

              Best Wishes,
              Mark

              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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              • Skulpture
                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                This might help:

                [http://vimeo.com/album/10747/video/1008937](http://vimeo.com/album/10747/video/1008937)
                all videos;
                [http://vimeo.com/album/10747](http://vimeo.com/album/10747)

                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
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                RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
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                • vanakaru
                  vanakaru last edited by

                  @Mark there is Syphon client option for layer. I am not sure about output though.

                  MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                  • bruper
                    bruper last edited by

                    It has OSC send/receive...

                    17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                    • bruper
                      bruper last edited by

                      I can send Android to eMotion and control some things and can send to OSCulator; after that I cannot advance...

                      17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                      • bruper
                        bruper last edited by

                        I'm finally able to use eMotion on Izzy from touchOSC via Osculator and Syphon, making progress :)

                        17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          A screen recording or basic tutorial video would be great @bruper ;)

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                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
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                          • vanakaru
                            vanakaru last edited by

                            Wow, I knew there will be someone!

                            MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                            • dbini
                              dbini last edited by

                              Nice one Bruno. the chain gets longer and more complicated.

                              John Collingswood
                              taikabox.com
                              2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                              plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                              • bruper
                                bruper last edited by

                                Wow, it's an honour to see this interest from the big guys! So, from the basic just in case: I turn on Wifi on my Android smartphone, put same IP on TouchOSC as the one in my MBP, launch OSCulator, select same OSC port on the input, on the OSC routing select local host, 9000. Launch eMotion, select O on the tools for OSC, receive, 9000, update I put full on 10. Launch Syphon Recorder, Launch Isadora, QCSyphonclient+imagetovideo+projector: Done
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                                17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                                • particlep
                                  particlep last edited by

                                  i've played with emotion again this afternoon.  i was able to connect osc values from isadora to parameters in emotion and see things move/change/happen.

                                  the breakthrough with emotion for me was seeing an output.
                                  i think i might soon need to have a look at syphon.

                                  isadora v3.0.7
                                  mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                  mac osx 10.12.6
                                  dyslexic.

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                                  • particlep
                                    particlep last edited by

                                    @bruper

                                    what version of emotion are you using? i've downloaded 0.6.7.3 and i get the feeling that it's a version that might be a bit buggy. i've emailed adrien to ask if there is in fact a newer version available.

                                    isadora v3.0.7
                                    mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                    mac osx 10.12.6
                                    dyslexic.

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                                    • bruper
                                      bruper last edited by

                                      @ particlep sorry only saw your post today, I just to receive comments via e-mail, not any more... eMotion finder-info says .6 period. It's also has many bugs unfortunately, the cursor is disappearing often, etc. Would be nice if Adrien would answer you and if he could progress in this very promising software (and provide a manual...)

                                      17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                                      • particlep
                                        particlep last edited by

                                        @bruper i've been waiting for a reply before adding another comment.  it's nearly break time so a quick addition, i too get the disappearing cursor thing.  my feeling is that version .6 available is a work in progress that is way behind the version used for the shows as seen on vimeo.

                                        it is an exciting application and one that i expect i'll continue to dabble with until such time as a version is released that is usable in a show situation.
                                        once i got past the initial how to see an output, i found version .6 fairly logical in it's layout and rapidly got myself to places in which i was seeing control able results.
                                        i think it's another situation where we have a contrast to the excellent work and support done by mark and his close team with isadora.

                                        isadora v3.0.7
                                        mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                        mac osx 10.12.6
                                        dyslexic.

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                                        • bruper
                                          bruper last edited by

                                          @particlep
                                          yeap, thanks Mark and close team!
                                          About eMotion, I agree with your feeling about version .6.
                                          I was experimenting in the first part of my interactive creative research here in Unicamp, Brazil in the past days, also with people (from NICS) that are used to programming in general (something I'm not good at)...
                                          I/we where unable to get wii or osc to interact behind the basic with it, I would love to be able to "click" (twice) in the render window, and animate from the remote stage weather with pen, particles or motion...
                                          instate of having to deal with the fact that eMotion wants to stay in top of all other application don't matter what and that every minute or so you have to click on the upper part of the mac window to retake view.control of your mouse.
                                          Did you have better achievement?
                                          It seems to me that at least part of the beautiful videos I saw from Adrien are not "interactive live" but pre-recorded projected videos, am I wrong?

                                          17"MBP 2.93GHZ Core2Duo mid 2009 - OSX10.11.6 - 8GB, 1TBCrucial_SSD, izzy 3.0.7

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                                          • particlep
                                            particlep last edited by

                                            @bruper

                                            my experiences of emotion mirror your experiences.  i did get osc data from isadora, however it is very restrictive in it's implimentation in emotion.
                                            as to your theory about the videos being pre-recorded...interesting.  something i'd not directly thought about... maybe we'll hear from adrien about it all ...
                                            time will tell.  
                                            happy new year.

                                            isadora v3.0.7
                                            mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                            mac osx 10.12.6
                                            dyslexic.

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