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    [SOLVED] Osc trouble

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    • Woland
      Woland Tech Staff @zedociel last edited by

      @zedociel

      The only thing that would make sense to me is that some other software you're using as part of your process also uses the port you're trying to use for OSC in Isadora (1234 by default).

      Test proceedure:

      1. Run this test patch when your OSC is acting up to see if the OSC Listener actor receives the values from the OSC Transmit actor. 
      2. If the OSC Listener is getting the values, your OSC to and from Isadora is working fine and there's a problem somewhere else in your workflow.
      3. If the OSC Listener is NOT getting the values, then something else is using that port and you need to try a different port:
        1. Change the 'port' input on the OSC Transmit actor to something else like '1235'
        2. Go into Isadora Preferences > MIDI/Net > Open Sound Control (OSC) > IP Port Number: and set the IP Port number to the new number (I used '1235')
        3. Quit Isadora Preferences
        4. Save the Isadora file
        5. Quit the Isadora application
        6. Re-open the modified OSC test patch
        7. Start again from step #2

      Best wishes,

      Woland

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        zedociel @Woland last edited by

        @woland

        Ok, i think i put the finger on it.

        The only thing that was using network was the pjlink actors i used to control the shutters.

        I get rid of those and now it's working like a charm. No, it wasn't on the same port (1234 vs 4352).

        I'm really having a lot of troubles with the pjlink (https://community.troikatronix...) lately. As soon as there is more than one projector connected, i have to have looonng delays between the two commands, otherwise, isadora simply crashes.

        Cross fingers, that was it...

        Isadora 3.2.1/HPOmen/NvidiaRTX3080/Windows11
        RazerBlade15Studioi7/Windows10

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          mark @zedociel last edited by

          @zedociel said:

          The only thing that was using network was the pjlink actors i used to control the shutters.

           Did you have more than one PJLink actor in the scene? Others have reported some issues with that which we haven't looked into deeply yet.

          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            zedociel @mark last edited by

            @mark

            Yes two... But i did some check this morning, starting from scratch and even with just one pjlink actor, it lose connection...

            Isadora 3.2.1/HPOmen/NvidiaRTX3080/Windows11
            RazerBlade15Studioi7/Windows10

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              mark @zedociel last edited by

              @zedociel said:

              Yes two... But i did some check this morning, starting from scratch and even with just one pjlink actor, it lose connection...

               Are you sending a LOT of data? While it shouldn't happen, if you were really sending a massive amount of messages, Isadora's OSC buffer might become corrupted and perhaps it would stop sending.

              To help us understand, please tell us:

              • What is the source of the OSC you're sending?
              • Share a screen shot of your patch.

              Best Wishes,
              Mark

              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                zedociel @mark last edited by

                @mark

                The most simple one, really. And it does it even when i'm connected to the video projector(s). When i relaunch the scene, most often, the osc connection is lost. It happens on my windows10 pc and my windows11 one. Both with isadora 3.2.1.

                It's also with this kind of simple pjlink setting that isadora just quit when entering a scene (i added delays and so on, but still...)

                Isadora 3.2.1/HPOmen/NvidiaRTX3080/Windows11
                RazerBlade15Studioi7/Windows10

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                  mark @zedociel last edited by Woland

                  @zedociel

                  Thanks for the patch. I guess this covers one situation: where the PJ Link actors are somehow interfering with OSC.

                  The problem with this example is that have a Listener actor, but that's never going to receive OSC. You need an OSC Listener actor to receive OSC.

                  But assuming that you meant to use an OSC Listener instead of a Listen, is this the procedure to replicate the issue?

                  1. Jump out of this scene
                  2. Jump back into this scene
                  3. Try to send data with the OSC Transmit, entering a number into the 'value' input manually

                  FAILURE: the OSC Listener actor should receive the value but it doesn't.

                  But also, you didn't need to have the PJ Link actors in the patch to make OSC fail. Is that true? This patch obviously has the Send PJLink actors in it so it doesn't give us an example of this case.

                  Best Wishes,
                  Mark

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                    zedociel @mark last edited by

                    @mark

                    Yes sorry, that was supposed to be an osc listener.

                    You have the procedure right.

                    In my case, the problem was really with the pjlink. As soon as i get rid of it, osc is working as supposed to. Never lost a connection again.

                    Thanks for taking care.

                    All the best

                    Isadora 3.2.1/HPOmen/NvidiaRTX3080/Windows11
                    RazerBlade15Studioi7/Windows10

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                      GaryGalbraith @mark last edited by

                      @mark

                      Was there any development on this topic.  I too am experiencing this same situation, e.g. OSC data stops with the use of PJLink actor.  As was the case with @zedociel, I was able to remove the PJLink and everything works fine not.  However, I now don't have control over my projectors since I am not using PJLink.

                      Years ago before the creation of PJlink actor, I did the projector control with TCPIP actors.  Do I need to go back to that previous means of projector control?

                      Gary

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                        DusX Tech Staff @GaryGalbraith last edited by

                        @garygalbraith said:

                        Was there any development on this topic.

                         This issue has not been resolved. I will ensure we have this in our bug database and that it gets looked into during the next Tech meeting.

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                          eMTv @DusX last edited by

                          hi all,

                          same trouble here, and really need to have this PJLink control over my beamer shutter.. Any news ?

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                            DusX Tech Staff @GaryGalbraith last edited by

                            @garygalbraith said:

                            Years ago before the creation of PJlink actor, I did the projector control with TCPIP actors.  Do I need to go back to that previous means of projector control?

                             This method should still works as it always has. 

                            We are looking into the network conflict reported by users using the PJlink actor. 

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