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      zedociel last edited by

      I don't have the pinwheel of death. Isadora simply quit. When i delete the enter scene trigger on the pjlink actor, everything just goes smoothly.

      Isadora 3.2.1/HPOmen/NvidiaRTX3080/Windows11
      RazerBlade15Studioi7/Windows10

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        Woland Tech Staff @zedociel last edited by

        @zedociel

        Try putting a Trigger Delay actor set to 0.05 seconds between the Enter Scene Trigger and the Send PJLink actors. Maybe this has to do with the speed with which you're asking the Send PJLink to execute commands immediately after it has become active in a Scene. 

        If that doesn't work and you're trying to send commands to two devices (I seem to remember you are), maybe put a delay between sending a command to the first one and sending a command to the second one so that Isadora has time to send the first command (instead of trying to send it at the exact same time as the second command). 

        Best wishes,

        Woland

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          zedociel last edited by

          Thanks Woland,

          I'm effectively triggering two projector at the same time. I tried the different delays in all senses but didn't get a stable enough result.

          It's really weird because it's something i used a lot before and never had trouble with it before.

          Right now, i'm on another show and they had the exact same problem. Isadora quitting every time they activate the pjlink. They ended outsourcing the shutters.

          We both used the pjlink actor a lot before and hadn't that kind of troubles before.

          Something changed. I don't know if it is in the panasonic firmware, or windows updates but it's really weird.

          Isadora 3.2.1/HPOmen/NvidiaRTX3080/Windows11
          RazerBlade15Studioi7/Windows10

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            DusX Tech Staff @zedociel last edited by

            @zedociel

            I don't have any issue stepping through our file (latest build of Windows 10).
            However, I have no media connected, and no projectors at the moment.
            I will plan to run some pjlink tests with my Panasonic projectors when I have a free period.

            When Isadora quits, are you presented a crash reporting dialog?
            If so, DM me your email entered to submit these reports, so I can look into the report data.

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              Woland Tech Staff @zedociel last edited by

              @zedociel said:

              Something changed. I don't know if it is in the panasonic firmware, or windows updates but it's really weird.

               If something changed recently, it couldn't have been on our end, since the last time we released an update to the Send PJLink plugin was October of 2021.

              Best wishes,

              Woland

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                zedociel @Woland last edited by

                @woland

                I know. I had a show in december with the latest izzy version and shutter control and hadn't any issue with it (same computer, older panasonic projectors). That's why it took me so long to find out what was wrong.

                Isadora 3.2.1/HPOmen/NvidiaRTX3080/Windows11
                RazerBlade15Studioi7/Windows10

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                    T_Decker last edited by

                    @zedociel 

                    Did you get any resolution to this issue? I tried to implement video mute and AV mute (both on and off) commands last night with two Epson ProL1405 projectors and have the same issue. I tried delaying the command to one projector so that the responses wouldn't overlap to no avail. (To be clear, the commands "work" the projectors will mute (or unmute) but then Isadora crashes to desktop.)

                    I'm happy to share my file if it's of any use...

                    Windows 10, Isadora 3.2.5
                    2 Epson ProL1300's and 2 ProL1405's

                    Texas Christian University Theatre Department

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                      miketutaj last edited by

                      I can confirm that I've experienced similar behavior in during the past several months.  I first encountered it while using Isadora on Windows 10 computers, but then found it would also occur on some but not all Mac OS computers (using similar OS versions).  It would only happen when I would jump to a new scene and had an enter scene trigger into the PJ link actor.  I went about a couple different methods of resolving this including creating a second instance of Isadora that would sit in one scene and just send shutter commands when necessary, and also similar to what @Woland suggested--introducing a very short delay between the enter scene trigger and the PJ Link actor.

                      I'd submitted crash logs and created a topic and found a couple other folks on the forum having trouble with this, so I thought I'd chime in here to add a plus one and hope this can be addressed.  It's been okay with the work-arounds, but it had been working very well previously, so I'd love to help find a solution for this.

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                        anjapowell last edited by

                        I just had the same thing occur on our show. We installed the Send PJLink plugin and started getting both a) crashes with no warnings or b) all the actors in the scene would disappear and Isadora would stop responding and we would have to force quit.

                        For us, the crashing errors would occur even in scenes without the plugin actor.

                        We're currently in tech, running Isadora 3 USB Key, and unfortunately I can't give you system details right now but we're running Windows. I'll try to get in tomorrow morning to update this with more information! 

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                        • Woland
                          Woland Tech Staff @anjapowell last edited by

                          @anjapowell

                          Please send in a support ticket using the link in my signature if you don't have one in already.

                          As a fallback, you can also try @Juriaan's homemade User Actors for PJLink that predate the native PJLink plugin. You can find instructions on this thread (just ignore the parts that mention the new PJLink plugin, as that's the one you're already using), and I believe this is the download link from that thread: https://community.troikatronix.com/assets/uploads/files/1527701581637-pjlink-examples.izz

                          Best wishes,

                          Woland

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                            wwachalovsky @Woland last edited by

                            @woland Just to add my two cents, I have had an equivalent experience with the pjlink actor. Every time I use a "Enter Scene Trigger" with a "Send PJLink" Actor, Isadora crashes. I will upload a crash report when I am out of the theater. I currently am outsourcing it via Companion.

                            (additionally, when I am using the Send PJLink actor, Isadora stops being able to receive OSC commands. Before it gets triggered, everything works well. After it is triggered, nothing responds. I have had to shut down Isadora and redo stream communication to get OSC commands back into Isadora. I don't know if there is an actual causal relationship between these two things but in the heat of the moment, they feel connected)

                            Isadora 3.0.7, Radeon RX 480, MSI, Windows 10

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                              miketutaj @wwachalovsky last edited by

                              @wwachalovsky Just following up on this as it continues to be an issue for me.  In my experience the crashes only occur when jumping between scenes at the same time as sending a plink command.  I've come up with a successful workaround by creating a second instance of Isadora that only sits in one scene, but receives command via a listener (or OSC) from the main show file which broadcasts the desired triggers to the pj link actor in this secondary instance.  It's maybe a little clumsy, but it has resolved my issue.  I can share a file to give you an example of how this works if that's useful.

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                                Woland Tech Staff @wwachalovsky last edited by

                                @wwachalovsky said:

                                additionally, when I am using the Send PJLink actor, Isadora stops being able to receive OSC commands

                                 Yes, we've had other reports of this issue and are looking into it.

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                                  Woland Tech Staff @miketutaj last edited by

                                  @miketutaj

                                  Thanks for offering to share your workaround. It would be wonderful if you could post the file here for others to use if/when they run across this thread.

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                                    tatrapikao last edited by

                                    We are currently experiencing an error that may as well be the same. We use the PJ-Link Actor on Isadora 3 on Windows 10. After using the Actor Isadora keeps working for some seconds. In that time it seems Isadora is completly functional, we can switch Scenes and edit Parameters. After a view seconds though it crashes and we are presented with the following Error Message:

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                                      tatrapikao @Woland last edited by

                                      @woland are there any news on this bug?

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                                        DusX Tech Staff @tatrapikao last edited by

                                        @tatrapikao

                                        This is the first I've seen this error, and I don't know of any workaround or fix currently.

                                        You are using an USB version of Isadora?

                                        If so do you get this error if you run the project in a non usb version (demo mode is fine)?

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                                          tatrapikao @DusX last edited by tatrapikao

                                          @dusx Yes we are using USB edition. Actually there is one other Thread connecting this Error to PJ-Link: https://community.troikatronix...

                                          I currently rehearsing but will try DEMO aferwards.

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                                            tatrapikao @DusX last edited by

                                            @dusx I just tested the Actor in the demo - it did not crash instantly, but after aprox. 10 triggers the Program crashed. This time it did not show that HASP Error, instead it generated a crash report that i submited. unfortunatly that did delete the crash-log from AppData so i was not able to read it first? 

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