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    • Armando
      Armando Beta Gold last edited by

      THanks to everyone for the answers

      in fact they all are interesting and have some difficulties. First I'll try to be clear on my needs. For the moments I don't have the need of importing images into izzy. They go straight to the big lcd screens.
      So, just pan/tilt zoom and ideally iris control. But I forgot to tell that I need full HD
      Lanc seems a pretty expensive because it seems to be 
      Canon vb-h41 is and seems to support lots of protocols.... but no futher specifications how they are implemented.
      IPv4 : TCP/IP, UDP, HTTP, FTP, SNMP (MIB2), SMTP (Client), DHCP (Client), DNS (Client), ARP, ICMP, POP3, NTP, authentification SMTP, RTSP, WV-HTTP (Canon), ONVIF IPv6 : TCP/IP, UDP, HTTP, FTP, SMTP (Client), DNS (Client), ICMPv6, POP3, NTP, authentification SMTP, RTSP, WV-HTTP (Canon), ONVIF
      In the end all I just want is to control come full hd webcams zoom tilt pan.... Still searching....

      Armando Menicacci
      www.studiosit.ca
      MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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      • keftaparty
        keftaparty last edited by

        Hi Armando, there are some cheap cameras that can be controlled with Lanc ( for zoom & focus ). Nearly all Sony cameras in fact. And most of them output hdmi.

        Then you need a pan tilt solution.
        I personnaly prefer ( and use ) this solution because for equal prices I get better cameras than the security pan/tilt models.
        Best
        Mehdi

        ...
        Mehdi Toutain-Lopez
        www.toutain-lopez.com

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        • Armando
          Armando Beta Gold last edited by

          Hello again,

          Thanks again guys to all of you. So, I'm keeping you posted for information.
          The final solution we found is Michael one . I'll explain why [Canon VC-C50i](http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/security_video_solutions/analog_pan_tilt_zoom_video_cameras/vc_c50i_vc_c50ir) is controllable via RS232 although we haven't tested it.
          What I want is ton control PTZ of 9 cameras and project into 9 screens in 3 rows of 3.
          4:3 proportion is fine for the project, but how to digitize 9 cameras? even though sd res. I'll need at least 3 computers with 3 Blackmagic quad then I need the 9 screens.
          I decided to use a good full hd projector. So i connect the 9 cameras to a good videosveilance hard disk recorder and multiplexer. Then I digitize this as one camera, then I split it into 9 parts I project so I can acquire, process and project any image from any source to any screen with 1 computer and one hd multiplexer.
          What is the cheapest solution to d digitize 1 HD image (hdmi) And is there a solution to digitize 2 full hd images?
          All the best. And thanks again for all the answers. All were great! 

          Armando Menicacci
          www.studiosit.ca
          MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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          • keftaparty
            keftaparty last edited by

            Hi Armando, what's the computer, is latency a big issue ( I mean is it important to go down to ~4 frames instead of ~8 ).

            Best
            Mehdi

            ...
            Mehdi Toutain-Lopez
            www.toutain-lopez.com

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            • Michel
              Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

              @Armando
              Just in case you need it, back in 2007 I made an Isadroa patch to controll the Canon vc-c4 and vc-c50i. HERE is the link to the old forum where you can download it.

              Best,
              Michel

              Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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              • Armando
                Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                Thanks Michael.

                You are always as generous as competent as always.
                I did download it. I hope I can adapt it for 9 cameras (the canon have in an out rs232). Crossing fingers because I'm buying 9!!!!!! 

                Armando Menicacci
                www.studiosit.ca
                MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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                • Michel
                  Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                  The patch is made for 9 cameras already, you can easily select them or control all at the same time. And as I said, daisy chaining the cameras would be very easy. The first camera in the row would be number 1 the second one number 2 and so on. You don't have to adress them if you daisy chain them.

                  Best
                  Michel

                  Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                  • Armando
                    Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                    Wow, thanks.

                    I want to do a camera choreography. Your patch seems perfect. I'll send you if I make any changes. Thanks Michael. Just perfect as always.
                    Apparently handshaking are changet in 1.3 I hope I can understand that. Never did serial....

                    Armando Menicacci
                    www.studiosit.ca
                    MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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                    • Armando
                      Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                      @ Michael,

                      I'm finally going for you your solution. Canon VC50i. But I've seen that the serial cable is not like the one I know. The camera is shipped with an adaptor "Canon VC-EX3 Surveillance Video Camera Interface S-Video & RS-232 Serial Adapter"

                      http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/383568-REG/Canon_0611B001_VC_EX3_Surveillance_Camera_Interface.html

                      and the serial plug is round so I need a serial cable that goes from keyspan to this thing plus chain to the other 8 cameras and I found it on the canon website under cables. But what I didn't find is the cable that goes from a camera to the next. It is not listed in the canon website at least in the cable section! Any idea about the name or where to find it?

                      Thanks

                      Armando Menicacci
                      www.studiosit.ca
                      MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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                      • Skulpture
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                        It looks like a PS2 cable? Not sure....

                        [https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=PS+2+cable&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7CERUYOaH4Wq0QW8zYHABQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1543&bih=1102](https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=PS+2+cable&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7CERUYOaH4Wq0QW8zYHABQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1543&bih=1102)

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                        • Armando
                          Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                          thanks. Who knows. It is a 8 pin mini din cable but is it crossed?

                          this is an explaining pdf 8 pin to RS 232...
                          After lots of research I found this RS232 to 8 pin mini din cable for vc cameras.
                          http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=RS%2D232C&eq=&Tp=
                          But the camera output of rs 232 is 8 pin too. SO I probably need just 8 pin to 8 pin cables.... and there are different configurations of the pins....
                          The good one is this
                          http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=PA%2DV16&eq=&Tp=
                          SO I probably need a 8 pin to 8 pin cable similar to this plug 
                          I cross fingers...

                          Armando Menicacci
                          www.studiosit.ca
                          MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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