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    • MatthewH
      MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

      I'm current programming a system that provides Watchout-like cuing capabilities like freerunning and looping playback, fully integrated MSC, and control cues using a tightly integrated combination of Duration and Isadora user actors I'm creating. I'm extremely excited about this prospect. I think if Isadora were ever to gain an integrated timeline, I would want it to be similar to Duration.

      Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        I think I am going to blogging this relationship between Duration and Isadora. 

        You guys (@[jhoepffner](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/15/jhoepffner) @MatthewH and @[bruper](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/929/bruper)) have got me thinking about this new idea in terms of timelines.... It really does open up Isadora into new territory. 

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        • DusX
          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

          For sure.. as soon as I used it I thought that its a fantastic partner to Isadora, and I agree with Matthew that I can seen a similar component as part of Isadora at some future point.

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            Worth a look also....

            [http://www.iannix.org/en/index.php](http://www.iannix.org/en/index.php)

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            • MatthewH
              MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

              As per my earlier post I just finished building the first draft of a set of user actors I'm calling Duration Toolkit that provide some pretty powerful functionality for cuing in Isadora using Duration. Key features include:

              -Automatic creation of a database of cue numbers and positions to allow easy jumping to a particular cue by number as well as effortless integration with MIDI Show Control
              -An Isadora based clock that Duration is slaved to while still permitting full use of Durations' built in transport controls
              -Built in error reporting and troubleshooting messages in plain english for easy configuration
              -Watchout style freerunning and looping movie playback and straightforward picture playback
              -Extremely resource efficient
              -Built in controls for jumping to timeline positions based on time, percent, or cue number
              -Creating staggered fades across multiple channels of video is vastly easier than with any other cueing method in Isadora
              I am also working on implementing:
              -Movie playback that chases timecode
              -Full designer/tech controls with seamless integration
              -Cue names in addition to cue numbers
              -Jump cue type
              -Seamless integration with my master/slave and understudy/spare playback computer actors for easy cuing across multiple headless playback computers from a single master computer
              I'm using it on a show for which I am currently in tech and it is proving to be extremely stable and I will post a video of the programming/configuration process once I have a moment and in the meantime I have attached a screenshot. I honestly think that this is by far the most powerful and efficient cuing system that is currently available for Isadora. Even on this single channel show I am enjoying its benefits and on a show with numerous channels of video I think it will probably be pretty life changing compared to the typical approach of creating hundreds of scenes.

              7bb40c-untitled.tiff

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              • Michel
                Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                Hey MatthewH

                Once again this is something that sure took hours/days/weeks to get where you have it now. Just wanted to say thank you for sharing and inpsiring others.

                Best
                Michel

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                • DusX
                  DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                  Looks awesome...
                  Will you put together any tutorials? ;)

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                  • MatthewH
                    MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

                    Ill definitely do a video demonstrating how it all works once I'm less busy. I definitely want to do some more work on them before I would consider distributing the actors and I haven't decided yet whether I will make them generally available. I forgot to mention this before but they are compatible with both OSX and Windows.

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                    • DusX
                      DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                      Great to hear since I'm on windows.
                      I guess I have two things to hope for..
                      1 that you decide to make them available (within my budget)
                      2 that I get a project that warrants their use.

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                      • MatthewH
                        MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

                        I'll do my best on #1.

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          Looks brilliant. Not only have you cracked the whole communication/osc commands and stuff you've built an interface too! haha. Where do you find the time? :)

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                          • MatthewH
                            MatthewH Beta Tester last edited by

                            The middle of the night, mostly.

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                            • bruper
                              bruper last edited by

                              great!

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                              • Skulpture
                                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                Duration seems to have kicked off a new trend... here is another type of 'timeline' app.

                                [http://createdigitalmotion.com/2013/05/vezer-lets-you-control-anything-with-timelines-without-being-overly-hard-to-use-mac/](http://createdigitalmotion.com/2013/05/vezer-lets-you-control-anything-with-timelines-without-being-overly-hard-to-use-mac/)
                                [http://www.vezerapp.hu/](http://www.vezerapp.hu/)

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                                • Michel
                                  Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                  Looks nice.

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                                  • vanakaru
                                    vanakaru last edited by

                                    @Skulpture

                                    If this is as good as CoGe is then it would be great. Only it will not be free.

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                                    • Armando
                                      Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                                      Well has anyone thought to use ableton live as a timeline tool? Sure it looks exagerate power just for that (like renting the top restarant in the world just to boil an egg. But it works. Isn't it? Or Audiomulch...

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                                      • keftaparty
                                        keftaparty last edited by

                                        Hi Armando, Live doesn't output OSC natively for what I know. I think you need to add Max4Live

                                        Mehdi

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                                        • Armando
                                          Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                                          I know Mehdi. I was thinking about midi....

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                                          • Armando
                                            Armando Beta Gold last edited by

                                            I'm also saying this because in my next project I use 6 channels of audio through matrix mixer and I cannot use the audio as a guide in Duration because I cannot chose outputs (nor spatialize ). I can use an audio empty track though.

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