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    Isadora and Black Magic Design Intensity Shuttle

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    • Michel
      Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

      @Paz

      As far as I know the HDMI output ist just a monitor feed of the HDMI input. What you need is something like THIS, but unfortunately its not out yet.

      Best
      Michel

      Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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        fifou last edited by

        It seems VDMX can use my Intensity shuttle USB3.0 HDMI output. But I didn't tried it yet.
        And it seems I can use In and out at the same time (still in VDMX)

        Best Philippe

        MacBookPro 15' 2012 - QuadCore i7 @ 2,66GHz - 16GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024Mo VRAM - 2 Internal SATA SSD Hard Drives - OSX10.13.6 - Isadora 3.0.7

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        • Skulpture
          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

          I'd be really interested to see if that's the case @fifou 

          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
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          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            "Note that Blackmagic boxes that come with matching input and output ports such as the Intensity Extreme can only operate in send OR receive mode, not both at the same time. When an input signal is being received the matching output becomes an automatic hardware pass-thru."

            Source: http://vdmx.vidvox.net/blog/new-vdmx-update-adds-support-for-blackmagic-hardware

            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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            • Paz
              Paz Beta Tester last edited by

              Hey Many thanks for your quick responses. The Caldigit Thunderbolt station looks interesting - is this similar to the designs that Belkin and Matrox have recently introduced?

              This is obviously going to be more difficult than I had initially thought. Having read some similar posts on this forum, I know several of you have purchased the BMD Intensity Shuttle USB3 edition. Does this allow you to capture live video via the HDMI input and then output the resulting image via Isadora from the Mac's Thunderbolt port?
              Thanks for your help and advice.

              Simon Powell: Researching Emerging Technologies in Live Performance at University of the Arts London.
              Running: Mac Studio M1 Max 32GB, 512GB SSD, macOS 15.1 | MacBook Pro M2 Pro 16GB, 512GB SSD, macOS 15.1 / Izzy v4.09 /// UK

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              • Skulpture
                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                If this is the same spec as your mac then you do not have USB 3.0 and the BMD Intensity Shuttle USB3 will not work i'm afraid.

                This is a USB 2.0 option - http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/videorecorder
                The quality will be good but not amazing... it would free up your thunderbolt for an output though.
                The only other option is a firewire capture card.

                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
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                • Michel
                  Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                  _The Caldigit Thunderbolt station looks interesting - is this similar to the designs that Belkin and Matrox have recently introduced?_Yes its similar, but next to the two thunderbolt connections it also has an HDMI out.

                  Best
                  Michel

                  Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                  • Fred
                    Fred last edited by

                    The larger thunderbolt blackmagic box (UltraStudio 4K) with desktop video 10 drivers now feature full duplex, ie simultaneous capture and recording. I dont have a unit and therefore cannot test it with Isadora but according to the new spec it should work. It is a more expensive capture box but with 4k you are seriously future proof and then have genlocked output and simultaneous input. It is also a rackmount unit with no breakout cables and a preview screen so it is quite handy.
                    Here is the press release

                    New Desktop Video 10 Update

                    Lastly, we are announcing Desktop Video 10 at IBC and this is a major software update for the UltraStudio 4K and DeckLink 4K Extreme capture and playback models.

                    With this new software update, these models get lots of new features but the most dramatic one is simultaneous capture and playback. At IBC we are going to show this working with DaVinci Resolve 10 and UltraStudio 4K where we will show live capture, color grading and then output live on the single UltraStudio 4K.

                    This update is a lot more than just simultaneous capture and playback and after 11 years of shipping thousands of capture and playback products for Mac, Windows and Linux, it was time to redesign the firmware and drivers to allow a new generation of features and performance.

                    This new architecture has been designed from the ground up to be optimized for high speed Thunderbolt and PCIe computers and the new emerging Ultra HD television formats that require massive data speeds to support. This new design has also been driven by the needs of high end DaVinci Resolve customers who are working on high end feature films.

                    The new design replaces the entire driver set and internal processing in the UltraStudio 4K and DeckLink 4K Extreme models. This change is a purely modern design that allows exciting features such as capture and playback at the same time and in different video formats. The new design features almost zero latency, depending on the host computer for the highest performance Direct GPU support.

                    Possible another solution for those with a single thunderbolt port.

                    Fred

                    http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                    https://github.com/fred-dev
                    OSX 13.6.4 (22G513) MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
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                      Rick last edited by

                      Won't the ultra studio express also do this? It's half the cost of the 4k and has both an HDMI input and output.

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                      • F
                        fifou last edited by

                        Hi guys,
                        I've been running some tests with blackmagic Intensity Shuttle USB3.0
                        And... NO it is not possible to capture video and output a stage at the same time with the intensity hardware with VDMX.
                        But YES, you can output anything you want from VDMX to the intensity hardware output.
                        When you capture a video stream, the output of the intensity shuttle is a copy of the input...

                        Best
                        Philippe

                        MacBookPro 15' 2012 - QuadCore i7 @ 2,66GHz - 16GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024Mo VRAM - 2 Internal SATA SSD Hard Drives - OSX10.13.6 - Isadora 3.0.7

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          Thanks for checking @fifou 

                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          • Fred
                            Fred last edited by

                            @Rick, no they all have output and input but full duplex requires different hardware as it says very clearly in the press release it is only for the 4k models.

                            http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                            https://github.com/fred-dev
                            OSX 13.6.4 (22G513) MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
                            Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD

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                            • Paz
                              Paz Beta Tester last edited by

                              Many thanks for your comments and recommendations. The BMD Ultra Studio 4K looks great but out of my price range although with a great feature set.

                              I think it will be cheaper to buy either the Belkin or Caldigit thunderbolt expansion + BMD Intensity Shuttle USB3\. alternatively purchase the Isadora USB dongle + BMD Intensity Shuttle USB3 and hire a Mac with USB3 ports for the project.
                              Great forum by the way!
                              Thanks again Paz

                              Simon Powell: Researching Emerging Technologies in Live Performance at University of the Arts London.
                              Running: Mac Studio M1 Max 32GB, 512GB SSD, macOS 15.1 | MacBook Pro M2 Pro 16GB, 512GB SSD, macOS 15.1 / Izzy v4.09 /// UK

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                              • crystalhorizon
                                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                Anyone did a test with captured video via blackmagic Intensity Shuttle USB3.0 into izzy and output the video to the matrox triple head via thunderbold? I got an email from blackmagic that it should work, just wanted to know if anyone had done some tests. I´m on a macbook pro mid 2012.

                                Cheers,
                                Alex

                                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                • Skulpture
                                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                  @[fifou](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/271/fifou)  and @[jgastonraoul](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/502/jgastonraoul) said they got it working on this post @[feinsinn](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/371/feinsinn)

                                  http://troikatronix.com/community/#/discussion/870/low-latency-capture-card

                                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                  RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                  RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                  RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                  • crystalhorizon
                                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                    Ah, ok. So I´ll give it a try.

                                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                      fifou last edited by

                                      Hi,
                                      Intensity shuttle pro USB3.0 works on osx 10.8.5 with izzy.
                                      Matrox tripplehead 2Go DP works on my mac but didn't tried it yet with izzy.
                                      I will test the two cards together soon..

                                      Best
                                      Philippe

                                      MacBookPro 15' 2012 - QuadCore i7 @ 2,66GHz - 16GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024Mo VRAM - 2 Internal SATA SSD Hard Drives - OSX10.13.6 - Isadora 3.0.7

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                                      • Skulpture
                                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                        The Matrox will work. I can't see why using both products at the same time would hinder the process. As long as your machine is fast enough, you have a SSD for media and the patch isn't super crazy with tons of blur and effects - I am quite confident it will be ok.

                                        :)

                                        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                        RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                        RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                        • crystalhorizon
                                          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                          BM Intensity Shuttle Pro USB3.0 works on my setup with izzy and 10.9.

                                          Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                          • Michel
                                            Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                            Just received the CalDigit thunderbolt station today. On OS X 10.9 it works out of the box. On 10.8 you have to install an ethernet driver for the network to work.

                                            DON'T INSTALL the driver on 10.9 otherwise your internet will not work at all, not even wifi. I have made the mistake. Had to reinstall maverick.

                                            Best
                                            Michel

                                            Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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