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    How does Isadora run on OS X Mavericks?

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    • Dappertutto
      Dappertutto last edited by

      Much thanks! Keep us in the loop of any other issues, positive or negative.

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      • Aolis
        Aolis last edited by

        Downloaded last night and not noticing any issues today. (Beyond the full screen issue Skulpture already addressed.)

        -Alex O

        Media Artist & Teacher
        MacBook Pro, Apple M3 Max, 128 GB
        Sonoma 14.3.1

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        • crystalhorizon
          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

          No issues here.

          Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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          • Armando
            Armando Beta Gold last edited by

            Everything seems fine.

            Armando Menicacci
            www.studiosit.ca
            MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2021 Apple M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 4TB SSD, Mac OS Sonoma 14.4.1 (23E224)

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            • Skulpture
              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

              I tested more and seems fine.

              One thing i have been reading is this App Nap:
              _"App Nap, meanwhile, powers down apps when they're hidden on your desktop, while Timer Coalescing gives your CPU "tiny periods of idle time" to help lower energy use. I can't say I experienced a truly noticeable difference in speeds since switching to Mavericks on my primary system, but Apple's promising a lot of changes to the back end to help soup things up a bit, including Compressed Memory, which frees memory space from inactive programs. All in all, it's not unlike App Nap, which also helps speed up the rest of your system." [Source:[ ](http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/22/apple-os-x-mavericks-10-9-review/)__[http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/22/apple-os-x-mavericks-10-9-review/](http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/22/apple-os-x-mavericks-10-9-review/)]_
              I can only **assume** that this doesn't apply to Isadora... because isadora is generally always doing something... But I need to check what happens when you minimise Isadora but still have full stage output. I am thinking about users (like myself) who use Isadora for long term fixed installations, etc where isadora is off/on (not always actually doing something)
              I am sure there will be a way to turn it off i'm sure....?
              BTW you can find it in Activity Monitor - it has its own Tab.

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              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
              RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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              • goodboy
                goodboy last edited by

                I'm mid show, so I'm gonna wait

                Thanks for the heads up Skulpture :)

                Macbook Pro 2020 / 13' M1 chip / 16GB Memory / Big Sur

                MacBook Pro (2017) - Intel Core i7 - 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 - Radeon Pro 560 4 GB
                Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB

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                • mark
                  mark last edited by

                  ---- "I'm in mid show, so I'm gonna wait."

                  Words to live by. ;-)
                  Best,
                  Mark

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                  • crystalhorizon
                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                    Had the problem with G-Force via Syphoner to Izzy. Stage image stopped and I had always to click on Syphoner. So I deactivated Nap Mode- click on Information in the app and tick deactivate nap mode- Now it works without stopping.

                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                    • mockej
                      mockej last edited by

                      I am running a USB3 DisplayLink adaptor to HDMI over CAT6 (MBP non-retina, Thunderbolt terminated by Blackmagic 3D). Have been running "Uncles & Angels" show for more than a year on this without problems... tried out Mavericks today and the DisplayLink does... terrible things... (should have checked their website, it's all spelled out there!).

                      Solution: will be creating a Mountain Lion partition to just run Izzy and the few other bits needed for the show... which is a good idea in any case as the system will be super clean when performing. 
                      Hope it works, will update if any issues
                      and yes the update to Mavericks was rash at best!

                      rMBP (2015) i7, 16gig, AMD Radeon R9 M370X, OS X 10.15 | located in Johannesburg, South Africa

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                      • Skulpture
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                        Thanks for letting us know feinsinn 

                        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                        RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                        RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                        • mockej
                          mockej last edited by

                          Update: DisplayLink drivers working perfectly on clean installed 60 GB Mountain Lion partition, with Izzy and essential drivers the only added apps (external TB RAID for video). Boot to Mavericks for day to day business, reboot to squeaky-clean ML for performances... works like a charm! Doing Uncles & Angels in St Nazaire and Nantes this coming week, so was playing with fire actually... but really like having a kind of alter-ego stripped down machine now just for Izzy.

                          rMBP (2015) i7, 16gig, AMD Radeon R9 M370X, OS X 10.15 | located in Johannesburg, South Africa

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                          • Skulpture
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                            Just a little follow up and I am not sure just how important this is.... but wanted to share anyway.

                            I mentioned above about the "APP NAP" well this is easily turned off. (see tick box in image - attached)
                            I have a feeling (and from what i've read) the app only 'naps' aka sleeps if its not active. So for most of the isadora users this wont apply during shows. But for users like myself who do installs that can be still or non active for periods of time then it could be an issue. It could make Isadora go to sleep and could maybe prevent a trigger or action from happening **BUT I have not tested this I am 100% speculating.**
                            I will probably turn it off on my Isadora Apps on any future projects with Macs on 10.9 running Isadora just to make sure.
                            Hope this helps someone.

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                            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              Also:

                              There is an issue with ENTTEc and 10.9..
                              [http://www.enttec.com/support-center/kb/article/108-OS_X_Mavericks_(10.9](http://www.enttec.com/support-center/kb/article/108-OS_X_Mavericks_(10.9)
                              "Update

                              A new USB driver implemented by Apple in Mavericks breaks the USB communications between DMXIS/D-Pro and any Enttec USB-DMX interface. 

                              Workaround

                              A simple workaround is to disable this new Apple driver. Start a Terminal session (Go > Applications > Utilities > Terminal) and copy/paste the following to the command prompt: 

                              `cd /System/Library/Extensions/IOUSBFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns  sudo mv AppleUSBFTDI.kext AppleUSBFTDI.disabled  sudo touch /System/Library/Extensions`

                              Now reboot your computer, and DMXIS/D-Pro should detect the Enttec hardware as normal.

                              Technical stuff

                              Both DMXIS and D-Pro use the FTDI D2XX driver to communicate with Enttec hardware. For some (as yet unknown) reason, Apple have written their own D2XX driver for Mavericks, effectively disabling any application which uses the standard D2XX library. It's likely that this problem affects every D2XX application on the planet, not just DMXIS & D-Pro, so I'm sure the next 72 hours will reveal a few complaints on the Interwebs, hopefully some further discussion, and perhaps an official solution. We'll need to wait and see."

                              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                              RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                              • Skulpture
                                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                A new report:

                                _"deleting scenes cannot be undone (command z)_
                                _now, saving project files with exact matching names  in the same folder  is possible = NOT GOOD"_

                                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                • particlep
                                  particlep last edited by

                                  i'm experiencing a problem trying to update to 131f06.  i double click the installer and i get a message of

                                  "isadore core installer" can't be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.
                                  in my isadora folder i've already renamed the older version, don;t know if this has a baring on it.
                                  i'm going to download 06 again and try again.

                                  isadora v3.0.7
                                  mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                  mac osx 10.12.6
                                  dyslexic.

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                                  • Michel
                                    Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                    @particlep

                                    Go to "system settings --> security & privacy" and tick the box "Allow applications downloaded from "Anywhere" ".

                                    Best
                                    Michel

                                    Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                    • particlep
                                      particlep last edited by

                                      @Michel 

                                      thank you. all sorted :)

                                      isadora v3.0.7
                                      mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                      mac osx 10.12.6
                                      dyslexic.

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                                      • mark
                                        mark last edited by

                                        Dear All,
                                        What does this one mean: "now, saving project files with exact matching names in the same folder is possible."
                                        Huh? Can anyone explain that one?
                                        And is anyone else having problems with Command-Z for Undo on Mavericks?
                                        Best Wishes,
                                        Mark

                                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                        • mockej
                                          mockej last edited by

                                          @abanze (OP of problem above), I have tested scene delete and undo in Mav, it works... and when attempting to save identically named project I get the usual "... already exists" warning. Any more details on the problem?

                                          rMBP (2015) i7, 16gig, AMD Radeon R9 M370X, OS X 10.15 | located in Johannesburg, South Africa

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                                          • Contexter
                                            Contexter last edited by

                                            ... well we've (@abanze and me) made fatal experience with Isadora's scene undo stack (what happens - in case you delete one of exact copies of scenes - in case you delete the very first one of an array of scenes etc. - maybe there is a unit test suite telling the whole story?)   and with save as . We had dropbox and another external hard drive busy running backups - ... right now I can't reproduce this behavior anymore , fortunately !

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