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    • mark
      mark last edited by

      Gosh you guys.. I'm sorry. So much going on -- especially now that I'm on my residency in Lausanne.

      But here you go. Brief testing shows that it works. Please try these and confirm. I looking over the code, I noticed that he's doing floating point calculations on every pixel -- that's expensive and so I suspect these could be slow on high resolution (e.g., HD) images. So keep that in mind.
      I also think it would probably be nicer to have a single color input instead of an separate RGB values. Does anyone else agree on this?
      Anyway... give these a try and let me know how they work. I'll publish the source code and XCode projects after I'm sure all is well.
      Best Wishes,
      Mark
      P.S. Thanks to ioio who originally created these plugins. I don't know if he's on the new forum or not. Are you here ioio?

      a7366c-chroma-key-distance.izzyplug.zip 71ce87-dilatealpha.izzyplug.zip

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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      • vanakaru
        vanakaru last edited by

        Christmas is coming!

        MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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        • ursullivision
          ursullivision last edited by

          Thanks!  I'll check it out this weekend to see if I can use it in rehearsal Monday.

          Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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          • ursullivision
            ursullivision last edited by

            Hi Mark,

            just "installed" the plugins by opening up the isadora package and placing them in the Isadora Plugins folder, but I can't seem to see them in Isadora when I restart.  Where should I find them, in Quartz Composer, or Core Video Effects (I can't find them in either).

            Thanks,

            ur,ummm......................................................eric

            Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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            • ursullivision
              ursullivision last edited by

              Sorry, I just found them in "User".

              Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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              • ursullivision
                ursullivision last edited by

                Hi Mark,

                I do agree with your suggestion: "I also think it would probably be nicer to have a single color input instead of an separate RGB values."  I'm going to see if these plugins are more efficient for my patch (then the Isadora Chroma key Actor).

                What I really need is a CI Chroma key actor, but I guess that is a very difficult task...

                Thanks again for recompiling them.

                ur,ummmm.......................eric

                Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                • ioio
                  ioio last edited by

                  Hi all,
                  the reason I did rgb input is that i use the patch below to pick the right color in the right region in the stage, its too hard to estimate precisely the color with your eyes.
                  I use this patch with an intensity shuttle capture to get uncompressed video:  video noise is the biggest ennemy of chroma key.
                  c59b13-getcolor.izz

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                  • Michel
                    Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                    @ioio thanks eitherway, its nice to play with.

                    @Mark thanks for compiling.

                    Best,
                    Michel

                    Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                    • ursullivision
                      ursullivision last edited by

                      @ioio thanks for the patch!  And the plug ins!

                      ur,ummmm..............................eric

                      Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                      • ursullivision
                        ursullivision last edited by

                        Just wanted to report that the ioio Chroma Key Actor is running faster in my patch than the Isadora Chroma Key Actor (with a Photo Jpeg MOV 720X576 background and Live USB Camera input at 720X576 I get up to 23.6 FPS).
                        When I add the Dilate Alpha actor it kills the frame rate (around 14 FPS).  With the Isadora chroma Key Actor I was getting around 12-14 FPS.  Thanks for sharing!

                        ur,ummmmmmmmmmmm........................................eric

                        Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          Where do I need to put these please?

                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          • Michel
                            Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                            Best,
                            Michel
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                            Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              Yup thought so.

                              No show on mine. Strange. Probably something simple. I've restarted and nothing showing up. I will figure it out.

                              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                              RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                              • ursullivision
                                ursullivision last edited by

                                Skulpture:  try looking in USER Actors...

                                Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                                • Skulpture
                                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                  Nope. Nothing.

                                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                  RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                  RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                  RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                  • mark
                                    mark last edited by

                                    No further help from me. Michel's instructions were correct.

                                    -- M

                                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                    • ursullivision
                                      ursullivision last edited by

                                      Hello all.  I found a QC Chroma key on the web which I have tried to adapt to my needs.  It is a little faster then ioio's (I guess because the image doesn't have to be converted from image to video and back).
                                      The problem I have with both ioio's plugin and the QC Chromakeyer is that I can't seem to get a smooth edge (Dillated. blurred. etc) on my key.  In QC I can blur the image without slowing the actor way down but any filters I pass the Chroma Keyed image through after the Chroma Key Patch in my QC composition eliminates the images alpha channel (ie. I can't split my Chroma Keyed image out and process it in the QC Actor without losing the the effect of the Chroma Key patch) all downstream patches (filters) seem to strip the alpha out.  Does anybody know how to preserve an alpha in QC?

                                      Sorry, this maybe a little off topic, but it is about creating a faster and better looking Chroma Key Actor for Isadaora.

                                      Any help would be appreciated.

                                      Thanks!

                                      ur,ummmm.............................................eric

                                      Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                                      • Michel
                                        Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                        @ursullivision

                                        I also found a link on several websites to such a plugin but they all led to the same out of date link. Could you post it here on the forum, so we can try out and maybe find a solution together?

                                        Best,
                                        Michel

                                        Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                        • ursullivision
                                          ursullivision last edited by

                                          @Michel,

                                          Hi Michel,

                                          sure I can post the original web address or my modification.  Which would you prefer?

                                          So far I've created a "qc composition" for an Isadora actor, but not a "plug in".  Don't know how to do that.

                                          Thanks,

                                          ur,ummmm..............................eric

                                          Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                                          • J
                                            Jim_Nevin last edited by

                                            I use the Veescope SoftLyght keyed ($40) with excellent results. There is a free trial.

                                            http://www.dvdxdv.com/NewFolderLookSite/VeeScope/Products/VeescopeKey/VeescopeKeyOverview.htm
                                            It is a Quartz Composer plugin that you will have to save as a QC composition in order to access within Izzy
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