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    • ursullivision
      ursullivision last edited by

      Sorry, I just found them in "User".

      Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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      • ursullivision
        ursullivision last edited by

        Hi Mark,

        I do agree with your suggestion: "I also think it would probably be nicer to have a single color input instead of an separate RGB values."  I'm going to see if these plugins are more efficient for my patch (then the Isadora Chroma key Actor).

        What I really need is a CI Chroma key actor, but I guess that is a very difficult task...

        Thanks again for recompiling them.

        ur,ummmm.......................eric

        Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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        • ioio
          ioio last edited by

          Hi all,
          the reason I did rgb input is that i use the patch below to pick the right color in the right region in the stage, its too hard to estimate precisely the color with your eyes.
          I use this patch with an intensity shuttle capture to get uncompressed video:  video noise is the biggest ennemy of chroma key.
          c59b13-getcolor.izz

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          • Michel
            Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

            @ioio thanks eitherway, its nice to play with.

            @Mark thanks for compiling.

            Best,
            Michel

            Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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            • ursullivision
              ursullivision last edited by

              @ioio thanks for the patch!  And the plug ins!

              ur,ummmm..............................eric

              Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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              • ursullivision
                ursullivision last edited by

                Just wanted to report that the ioio Chroma Key Actor is running faster in my patch than the Isadora Chroma Key Actor (with a Photo Jpeg MOV 720X576 background and Live USB Camera input at 720X576 I get up to 23.6 FPS).
                When I add the Dilate Alpha actor it kills the frame rate (around 14 FPS).  With the Isadora chroma Key Actor I was getting around 12-14 FPS.  Thanks for sharing!

                ur,ummmmmmmmmmmm........................................eric

                Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                  Where do I need to put these please?

                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                  RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                  RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                  RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                  • Michel
                    Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                    Best,
                    Michel
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                    Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      Yup thought so.

                      No show on mine. Strange. Probably something simple. I've restarted and nothing showing up. I will figure it out.

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • ursullivision
                        ursullivision last edited by

                        Skulpture:  try looking in USER Actors...

                        Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          Nope. Nothing.

                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          • mark
                            mark last edited by

                            No further help from me. Michel's instructions were correct.

                            -- M

                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                            • ursullivision
                              ursullivision last edited by

                              Hello all.  I found a QC Chroma key on the web which I have tried to adapt to my needs.  It is a little faster then ioio's (I guess because the image doesn't have to be converted from image to video and back).
                              The problem I have with both ioio's plugin and the QC Chromakeyer is that I can't seem to get a smooth edge (Dillated. blurred. etc) on my key.  In QC I can blur the image without slowing the actor way down but any filters I pass the Chroma Keyed image through after the Chroma Key Patch in my QC composition eliminates the images alpha channel (ie. I can't split my Chroma Keyed image out and process it in the QC Actor without losing the the effect of the Chroma Key patch) all downstream patches (filters) seem to strip the alpha out.  Does anybody know how to preserve an alpha in QC?

                              Sorry, this maybe a little off topic, but it is about creating a faster and better looking Chroma Key Actor for Isadaora.

                              Any help would be appreciated.

                              Thanks!

                              ur,ummmm.............................................eric

                              Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                              • Michel
                                Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                                @ursullivision

                                I also found a link on several websites to such a plugin but they all led to the same out of date link. Could you post it here on the forum, so we can try out and maybe find a solution together?

                                Best,
                                Michel

                                Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                • ursullivision
                                  ursullivision last edited by

                                  @Michel,

                                  Hi Michel,

                                  sure I can post the original web address or my modification.  Which would you prefer?

                                  So far I've created a "qc composition" for an Isadora actor, but not a "plug in".  Don't know how to do that.

                                  Thanks,

                                  ur,ummmm..............................eric

                                  Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                                  • J
                                    Jim_Nevin last edited by

                                    I use the Veescope SoftLyght keyed ($40) with excellent results. There is a free trial.

                                    http://www.dvdxdv.com/NewFolderLookSite/VeeScope/Products/VeescopeKey/VeescopeKeyOverview.htm
                                    It is a Quartz Composer plugin that you will have to save as a QC composition in order to access within Izzy
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                                    • ursullivision
                                      ursullivision last edited by

                                      @Michel,

                                      Here is where I found the links below:

                                      http://kineme.net/forum/DevelopingCompositions/Maskingtechniquesforgreenscreen

                                      Here are a few links to the Compositions I found:

                                      this composition doesn't work on my MAc:

                                      http://www.daisyrust.com/category/quartz-composer/

                                      This is the one I modified:

                                      http://kineme.net/files/ChromaKey_gt.qtz

                                      This is another one which I also tried to modify:

                                      http://kineme.net/files/Chroma key +BW_0.qtz

                                      Am still having problems getting clean edges.

                                      I'll check out Jim Nevis's suggestion (if it isn't to slow for my machine).

                                      Thanks,

                                      ur,uummmmmm.................................eric

                                      Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                                      • ursullivision
                                        ursullivision last edited by

                                        @Jim_Nevin,

                                        I just downloaded the demo version of Veescope SoftLyght keyed.  How do I save the plugin as a Composition?

                                        I found the plugin but can't figure out how to convert it.

                                        Thanks for any info.

                                        ur,ummmm....................................eric

                                        Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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                                        • J
                                          Jim_Nevin last edited by

                                          Ask the Veescope Key guys (support@dvdxdv.com about their "VeescopeKeyImageUnit" version of VeescopeKey.

                                          It gives you a CI Image version that is directly accessible within Isadora. I don't remember if they let me try that as a trial or not. It provides an excellent key from my experience.
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                                          • ursullivision
                                            ursullivision last edited by

                                            @Jim_Nevin Thanks, I just wrote them.  Are you working in SD or HD?

                                            ur,ummmm.......................eric

                                            Isadora 3.2.6 / Macbookpro M3 / Mac OS 14.6.1 / 18 GB RAM / external SSD

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