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    • Skulpture
      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by Woland

      I was just wondering if any of you have found a solution for this.

      If I am putting a mac mini into a museum/art gallery, etc I wanted a solution that would automatically either
      A) Reopen the Isadora patch, or;
      B) Force restart the machine, which would re trigger the opening sequence, etc.
      Thanks.

      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        Something like this but for Mac...

        [http://www.kwakkelflap.com/watchdog.html](http://www.kwakkelflap.com/watchdog.html)

        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
        RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
        RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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          gavspav Beta Silver last edited by

          Can't you use applescript and/or automator for this?

          Or make a patch which doesn't crash!

          http://www.digitalfunfair.co.uk I'm using M1 MBP 14" mostly but sometimes use older Mac & Windows machines.

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            haha @gavspav my patches hardly ever crash!

            I test run corporate stuff for days if not weeks BUT one system is going into a very awkward place and I was just thinking ahead. 
            Applescript *might* do it but its not obvious...automator is one avenue i've not looked at yet.

            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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            • Michel
              Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

              @Skulpture
              The old Forum is full of answers :-). I knew I read this question already.

              And here the new link to the Software. I did not try it myself:
              http://mac.brothersoft.com/keep-it-up-x-4.1.0.html

              Best,
              Michel

              Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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              • Skulpture
                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                I downloaded the Keep-it-up software but he one I downloaded was PowerPC only. I might revisit the site and see if they ever updated it.

                Ive got it working with applescript actually... i'm going to blog it and share it because I saved it as a app which you can start on launch.
                Thanks.

                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                • Michel
                  Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                  That would be great Graham

                  Just downlaoded keepitup x, but it doesn't launch, even it says power pc and intel on their website.

                  Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                    I've cracked it using some of the code Mark created in the old forum! Thanks @michel.

                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      So here it is:

                      Place the test.izz file into:
                      **Users/[yourname]/Documets/**
                      Then open up the Isadora watcher application in Automator. (Mac only i'm afraid!)
                      In automator change **[grahamthorne]** to **[yourname]** save it (or if you click the build button - the little hammer) it will let you know if it cant find the file. 
                      This is also where you can change the location of your file if you don't want it in Documents. Please note that the file ordering is backwards!
                      You can also change the name of the file from "test.izz" to anything you want; just make sure they match and include the file extension.
                      Once all this is done save it or duplicate and save, locate it double click the Isadora Watcher application to open it and after a few seconds the isadora file should open and remain open. If Isadora was to crash then it would reopen Isadora and the specified file.
                      You do need a little bit of Automator knowledge for this so stick with it!

                      a46a94-isadora-watcher.zip

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • particlep
                        particlep last edited by

                        Skulpture this is excellent.

                        i've got it working really quickly.  i notice that the test file loaded my of24 version of isadora.
                        applescript feels really powerful, but i'm still struggling to get into it.  little apps like this inspire me to keep trying.  thank you for posting it.

                        isadora v3.0.7
                        mbp 2.6ghz i7
                        mac osx 10.12.6
                        dyslexic.

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          No problem. I didn't do much really to be honest.

                          I'm not sure how you would change what version to open though. 

                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          • particlep
                            particlep last edited by

                            i'll experiment with a patch made in of25 etc etc.

                            isadora v3.0.7
                            mbp 2.6ghz i7
                            mac osx 10.12.6
                            dyslexic.

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                              nick last edited by

                              Because the applescript is telling finder to open the patch, finder uses the first application it finds that will open the file by going through the application folder in the order they appear. The lower numbered earlier version is listed before the more recent version so it uses that. If you rename the old version so it is listed after the newer one (for example calling it olderisadora) then the finder will use the newer version. It will also mean when you double click an izzy file the newer version will be used as well.

                              HTH

                              MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                              • particlep
                                particlep last edited by

                                @nick thank you :)

                                isadora v3.0.7
                                mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                mac osx 10.12.6
                                dyslexic.

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                                • mark
                                  mark last edited by

                                  [EDIT: attached new version of script with instructions embedded in the script.]

                                  Dear All,

                                  Good one Graham. Here's a slightly improved version (as an Applescript file... you can paste this in the the Automator I guess) where you can specify the exact path to the Isadora application you wish to use, thus avoiding the problem mentioned by Nick above.
                                  There are two "property" statements at the top. There you can specify both the Isadora application you wish to use, and the document that will be opened. Editing the first of these will determine the specific copy of the Isadora app that will run.
                                  These app and document files are specified as normal Unix paths... which I think is more convenient than the standard Applescript method.
                                  Cheers,
                                  M

                                  78b6cc-isadora-auto-restart.scpt.zip

                                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                  • particlep
                                    particlep last edited by

                                    thanks for this mark.

                                    i got it working after i checked "enable assistive devices" in the mouse and trackpad section of the universal access of the system preferences and i made the document path "/Applications/Isadora/Isadora watcher/test.izz"
                                    this is well sweet :)

                                    isadora v3.0.7
                                    mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                    mac osx 10.12.6
                                    dyslexic.

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                                    • particlep
                                      particlep last edited by

                                      if i had a patch that used inputs from osculator, am i correct in thinking that i could add stuff about osculator into this script too ?

                                      i see the benefit of this script as a start after crash and start at the beginning of the day.
                                      most excellent :)

                                      isadora v3.0.7
                                      mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                      mac osx 10.12.6
                                      dyslexic.

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                                      • Skulpture
                                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                        I cant see why you couldn't add osculator to the workflow.

                                        Or maybe make an app all of its own and make both of them run at start up. 

                                        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                        RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                        RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                        • Skulpture
                                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                          I have turned Marks script into an App. Just for those who find it easier to work with; I use it this way so on start up the machine automatically loads this app and kick stats isadora.5a886c-isadora-watcher-mc.app.zip

                                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                          • Skulpture
                                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                            I now have a new problem..... After about two hours of running an Isadora patch it is locking up. No crash. Just goes still and as soon as I move the mouse I get the spinning beach ball.

                                            This patch needs to run for 8 hours a day; best I can get is 2 hours. Bit worried. Does anyone know if I can make automator look for "not responding" instead of crash... because Isadora isn't even crashing.
                                            I have a feeling this is a Quicktime issue....

                                            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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