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    • particlep
      particlep last edited by

      i wish i could help skulpture but i feel all i can do is offer supportive words in a post following yours.  can i ask what the patch is doing, sorry i mean what does isadora output and is the 2 hour thing in any way related to a mulitiple of the loop time of the piece, i have of course gone for the big assumption of a looping video....

      isadora v3.0.7
      mbp 2.6ghz i7
      mac osx 10.12.6
      dyslexic.

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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        The patch is doing quite basic stuff;

        - Pick 1 of 6 videos and plays it.
        - If no video is chosen after 2 mins it plays a demo video.
        But it will be running all day 5 days a week. It keeps hanging up after *about* two hours. 
        I am sure I will sort it out but I can't seem to understand why its happening right now. 

        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
        RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
        RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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        • particlep
          particlep last edited by

          i sounds quite a quandary. could it be at all related to a system thing like put hard disc to sleep after 2 hours? r u testing the patch by letting the demo run every two minutes ? does this all take place in the same scene ? my approach here is asking questions with the intention of doing things with the stuff u already know.

          isadora v3.0.7
          mbp 2.6ghz i7
          mac osx 10.12.6
          dyslexic.

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            Nope all energy saving and screen savers stuff is off; checked that.

            Demo video is running every 2 mins with me now and again triggering a video.
            Videos are in various scenes, so no not just one.
            Weird huh?

            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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            • particlep
              particlep last edited by

              oh yes ! do you suspect it to be connected to quicktime memory leakage filling up the ram ?

              isadora v3.0.7
              mbp 2.6ghz i7
              mac osx 10.12.6
              dyslexic.

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              • N
                nick last edited by

                have you looked at the console output ot see of there are any clues in there ?

                MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                  @particlep - I have a feeling that's it.

                  @nick yes but it doesn't mean much to me. My coding/programming skills are next to nothing... 

                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                  RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                  RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                  RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                  • particlep
                    particlep last edited by

                    i"m only aware of it as i"m remembering a post somewhere on the original forum by mark about it. as a way of testing it, if u were to make a demo video file that is twice the size of the existing demo file, what do u see happen to the mean time to hang ?

                    isadora v3.0.7
                    mbp 2.6ghz i7
                    mac osx 10.12.6
                    dyslexic.

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                    • Skulpture
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                      In fact it just did it now.... lasted about 3hrs25mins (approx).

                      Again no crash, just pauses and then beach ball.
                      I have saved the crash file console output (wont let me attach it here as a ZIP for some reason)

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • Skulpture
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                        Attached it.... 01d33d-izzy-crash-gt.rtf

                        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                        RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                        RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                        • particlep
                          particlep last edited by

                          can you run the patch on an older mac with an older operating system at all to check if it's something connected to mac os?

                          isadora v3.0.7
                          mbp 2.6ghz i7
                          mac osx 10.12.6
                          dyslexic.

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                          • Skulpture
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                            I can try that yes. I might give it a go tomorrow.

                            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                            • particlep
                              particlep last edited by

                              i found this

                              http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/2012/Mar/msg00000.html
                              in it there''s a reference to the opngl driver monitor.  i have no idea what it is, but it seems to monitor something, that might be useful.  i might just have to make a cup of tea, as i don;t think i'm adding too much now.

                              isadora v3.0.7
                              mbp 2.6ghz i7
                              mac osx 10.12.6
                              dyslexic.

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                              • Skulpture
                                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                Thanks for your thoughts though @particlep I appriciate it :-)

                                On a brighter note - my work macbook pro retina just arrived! Woo!

                                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                • vanakaru
                                  vanakaru last edited by

                                  Try to ask help from these guys

                                  http://hintsforums.macworld.com
                                  There are some great enthusiasts who also are good reading clues from the console logs.
                                  It may have something to do how many times a loop is allowed to play by the system(or Isadora?). Original size 2 hours 2x the size almost 4 hours?!

                                  MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                                  • Skulpture
                                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                    Thanks will do @vanakaru

                                    Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                    RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                    RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                    RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                    • Skulpture
                                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                      I have created a post on the macworld forum; but waiting validation, etc.

                                      I have also seen that it's happening on similar software such as max/msp+jitter:
                                      http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28251
                                      And processing:
                                      http://processing.org/discourse/alpha/board_Proce55ing_software_bugs_action_display_num_1106328253.html
                                      This is a huge issue, can't understand how or why Apple have done this? 

                                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                      • N
                                        nick last edited by

                                        Its an assumption at the moment that those other issues are the same as yours - one is from 7 years ago, so may not be a live issue any more.

                                        Can you post your patch - there might be something unusual in it that you may not have noticed ?
                                        Try running your patch with Activity Monitor running (found in the Utilities folder) to monitor its memory use as it runs  - it may provide a clue.

                                        MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                                        • mark
                                          mark last edited by

                                          Dear Graham,

                                          OK -- I've looked over the crash report. It seems like there are dozens of movies that are attempting to be loaded in the background. For sure this shouldn't happen, but it could be a result of your randomization routine. What I think might be happening goes like this:
                                          1) Movie 1 is playing
                                          2) You request movie 5 (i.e., send a 5 to the 'movie' input)
                                          3) Background preload of movie 5 starts; movie 1 continues to play
                                          4) Before the background preload of movie 5 completes, you request a different clip -- e.g., movie 6 -- by sending a 6 into the 'movie' input
                                          5) Movie 5 goes off to the nether world, consuming memory and resources
                                          6) Movie 6 plays, movie 1 gets properly "thrown away"
                                          Repeat this process enough, and eventually, you run out of memory.
                                          Is this possible Graham? That the random numbers are coming so rapidly, that the a new movie would be chosen before the old one is preloaded?
                                          One simple test: put a Multi Blocker before the 'movie' input -- set the value to 2 seconds. (I know that may be too long... but just as a test.) If you do this, does the patch run without crashing for a substantially longer time?
                                          Also, you should really try this patch with 1.3.0f26 if you haven't already. I may have addressed some bugs in this area that will get it to run better. But try the test above first if at all possible, so we can zero in on the problem.
                                          Best Wishes,
                                          Mark

                                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                          • Skulpture
                                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                            Hi Mark,

                                            First off all thanks for looking into this, and thanks to everyone else above for chiming in and helping.
                                            The routine you described is not how I've patched i'm afraid; but it still helps me out and has given me an idea of how to improve the patch drastically.
                                            Each movie player has its own projector and when video one is picked; its turns on movie player 1, when video two is picked it turn on video two. I have used to toggle on/off for visibility on each of the movie players but am starting to think this is not the best way to go about it.
                                            After each video isadora jumps to a secondly scene (jump connected to video end) this plays another video and then goes back to the first scene awaiting a new video to be picked.
                                            I will try and attach a screen shot today. I am going to explore this all day today.
                                            I did also update to 1.3.0f26 yesterday and did see a bit of a difference yes.
                                            Again; thanks to everyone.

                                            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                            RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                            RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                            RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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