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    Recommendations When Purchasing A Router?

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    • Woland
      Woland Tech Staff last edited by

      Hello all,

      For the sake of my own knowledge, and the benefit of future forum-users who run across this thread:

      Further research has me asking the question, "Active or Passive POE?"

      Anyone care to shed light on this? Active looks to be more common, so that is what I am leaning towards.



      @Fred @Juriaan 

      I would love to know the make and model #'s of the routers that you mention if you have the time to check at some point.



      Best wishes,

      Woland

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      • Juriaan
        Juriaan Tech Staff last edited by

        The thing with POE (Power over Ethernet) is that not a lot of devices support it. Personally I'm more for a switch that can deliver POE and just connect a Ethernet cable from my router to it.

        Also I don't know a lot of routers that actually support 'POE' out of the box..

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        • Juriaan
          Juriaan Tech Staff last edited by

          I have a Nighthawk R7000 btw and a few smaller ones that I use in installations. (40 bucks TPLINK)

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          • Woland
            Woland Tech Staff last edited by

            I suppose I'm talking both switches (more common to have POE) and routers at this point 

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            • bonemap
              bonemap Izzy Guru @Woland last edited by bonemap

              @woland

              I am just asking the question how POE would be useful for an Isadora installation? My only experience with POE is as an end user of a corporate telephone system. Other than that, I believe some video extenders and IOT systems use POE. Could it be useful for running micro controllers such as Arduino’s? Is it something that is going to become more common or needed?

              Best wishes,

              Bonemap

               

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              • Juriaan
                Juriaan Tech Staff @bonemap last edited by

                @bonemap

                Hi there Bonemap,

                I use a POE Switch for powering my motion capture camera's (https://optitrack.com/) and I have to say that in the industry I see a lot of small devices that can actually use POE (Camera's, Artnet Receivers, etc). 

                Ofcourse you can attach an arduino to a POE if you want too, the thing is that you need to make sure how much power is actually being send to your arduino, and convert it if necassary.

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                • bonemap
                  bonemap Izzy Guru @Juriaan last edited by bonemap

                  @Juriaan 

                  Ah OK, so these are specific purpose cameras that work in an array? I guess surveillance style systems would also use POE. I don’t see a lot of gear like that. But I can imagine it would be very useful to have plug and play networked devices with POE.

                  Thanks for your insight.

                  Best wishes

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                  • Juriaan
                    Juriaan Tech Staff last edited by

                    Exactly. Systems like surveillance camera's also use it. Basically most small networked devices have a version that is POE enabled.

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                    • Paz
                      Paz Beta Tester @Juriaan last edited by

                      @juriaan @fred @woland @bonemap @everyone I hope you don't mind me bumping this thread, I found the information extremely useful, but seeing as it's been 8 years since this has been discussed I wonder what new developments I should consider.

                      I primarily work in an education setting, and I would like to be able to create my own local network for wired and wireless access. 

                      I'm using Mac computers (Isadora), Arduino and Pipo interfaces, Birddog cameras (controlled via the VISCA PTZ actor), Luxonis Oak-D camera (POE), audio sent over Dante, plus NDI and OSC.

                      Can I purchase a router with multiple poe ethernet ports which also offers wireless connection with good range, or do I invest in a wireless router and a separate switch? Hoping for your recommendations.

                      Many thanks for everyone's help.

                      Best wishes, Simon

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                      • Armando
                        Armando Beta Gold @Paz last edited by

                        @paz said:

                        Luxonis Oak-D camera (POE),

                         Hi simon, just curous. hoe he you youse this camera and what fo? I don't mean to pry...

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                        • Paz
                          Paz Beta Tester @Armando last edited by

                          @Armando Hi Armando I hope you're well. 

                          I've been using a few of these devices for interactive installations within my teaching and research. Essentially they're a replacement for my Kinect cameras which stopped working correctly. 

                          I wanted some sensors for 3D depth capture with POE - I settled on the OAK-D, though if any of these new tracking and depth sensing cameras had plug and play connectivity with Isadora I'd have been interested. Maybe the new Pythoner actor can come to the rescue?!

                          Currently I'm using Touchdesigner to process the data from OAK-D and I then send the results back to Isadora via NDI.

                          Hopefully in the future there will be a way to do this directly within Isadora, like with the Kinect camera and the OpenNI Tracker actor - if anyone knows how, please let me know!

                          Best wishes,

                          Simon

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