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    • Woland
      Woland Tech Staff last edited by

      try

      Video In Watcher > Difference > Motion Blur (set top parameter to “100” > Projector actor

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      • Vidasonik
        Vidasonik @Woland last edited by

        @woland Thanks! Yes this is what I used to do - which is fine - but you get all the background along with the dancer.

        I need to differentiate the dancer from the background which is why it seems to make sense to take a freeze shot of background WITHOUT dancer and then Izzy can subtract what remains UNCHANGED from the moving body! Graham Thorne showed me this freeze/eyes etc routine but I can't get it to work as I have said.

        I use the web cam recommended in Izzy manual - I think its an HP one.

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        • Vidasonik
          Vidasonik last edited by

          O yes here is the patch that works pretty well but still some background:

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          • Vidasonik
            Vidasonik last edited by

            sorry didn't seem to attach anything!

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            • Skulpture
              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

              Hi.

              Might sound obvious but you have to take the background image (by pressing P) with your body out of the live feed video.

              Also remove the Live feed video out from the projector and connect it to the Effect Mixer Video out - you will see the result.

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              • Vidasonik
                Vidasonik last edited by

                I just did this and this is the result!?

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                • Vidasonik
                  Vidasonik last edited by

                  yes I've pressing 'p' after removing myself from the camera frame!

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                  • Michel
                    Michel Izzy Guru @Vidasonik last edited by

                    @vidasonik

                    As I wrote in my post above I don't think you will get what you want this way. Next to that, if you leave the setting "additive" in the blend mode of the projector it will definitely not work as you want.

                    Best Michel

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                    • DusX
                      DusX Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

                      @vidasonik

                      You may find you can clean away the background (somewhat) by adding a threshold actor. 
                      Additionally, a Contrast actor, may allow you to 'tune out' the background shades as well.
                      Its possible (depends on what you really want) that the TT Edge Detect glsl shader (requires downloading the bundle from the Plugins section) may provide some of what you want.

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                      • Vidasonik
                        Vidasonik last edited by

                        Cheers for that! Graham - you made it seem so easy!!!

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                          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum @Vidasonik last edited by

                          @vidasonik said:

                          Cheers for that! Graham - you made it seem so easy!!!

                           Thats Graham 😍

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                          • Vidasonik
                            Vidasonik last edited by

                            Yes, but what he made 'seem' easy is, evidently, 'actually' impossible !

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                            • Woland
                              Woland Tech Staff @Vidasonik last edited by

                              @vidasonik

                              I don’t know about impossible. What aspect of what you’re trying to do haven’t you been able to accomplish yet? We’re here to help.

                              Best wishes,

                              Woland

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                              • Michel
                                Michel Izzy Guru @Woland last edited by

                                @woland

                                I guess what he wants to do is isolate a person/dancer with a normal web camera and put him over a background video/picture. And to be honest with that setup it will be more a tinkery unsatisfying solution.

                                Best Michel

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                                • Skulpture
                                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                  Working fine for me...

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                                  • Skulpture
                                    Skulpture Izzy Guru @Vidasonik last edited by

                                    @vidasonik said:

                                    I just did this and this is the result!?

                                     This isnt working because you have two projectors; one clean feed from the live feed and one from the background subtraction.

                                    I have just opened your 'graham.izz' patch and it worked first time.

                                    Open the patch - step out of the way of the camera - press P to take a still image. Then move into the frame. 

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                                    • Michel
                                      Michel Izzy Guru @Skulpture last edited by Michel

                                      @skulpture

                                      Well its not a clear isolation from the background but some fancy difference effect on the person. But maybe this is what he is looking for. 

                                      And still to say with a camera set to automatic you will not have a clean cut out if it sets the blend to a different value.

                                      Best Michel

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                                      • Vidasonik
                                        Vidasonik @Skulpture last edited by

                                        @skulpture just did this - and again I just get a picture of me with background !!??

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                                        • Skulpture
                                          Skulpture Izzy Guru @Vidasonik last edited by

                                          @vidasonik

                                          Delete this line. 

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                                          • tomthebom
                                            tomthebom @Vidasonik last edited by

                                            @vidasonik

                                            Hi Vidasonik, I am definitely not a pro, but what helps me is to create tidy patches. It helps seeing, what you are actually patching...In your case You would notice, that your VideoInWatcher is connected directly to the projector as sculpture earlier in this threat pointed out . Somehow your calculation "got lost"... Kind regards, Tom

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