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[ANSWERED] ​Rutt Etra Isadora 3



  • Does Rutt Etra work with Isadora 3 or is there a plugin similar to it that's available?

    Thanks Nilly


  • Tech Staff

    @obscenitystate

    It's in beta and nearly ready for release  .

    Coming soon



  • It's ready. 

    https://troikatronix.com/plugin/rutt-etra-for-isadora-3/

    Make sure to donate if you can: The partner of the the late Bill Etra -- creator of the original Rutt-Etra hardware video synthesizer –– is disabled and on fixed income. All donations go to her to help her exist in this difficult situation.

    Best Wishes,
    Mark



  • @mark

    I've installed the new Rutt Etra in the Plugins folder - it's sat there with its Grapher and OpenNI friends, but it isn't showing up in Izzy. Ive deleted prefs and restarted, but it's still shy.



  • @dbini said:

    I've installed the new Rutt Etra in the Plugins folder - it's sat there with its Grapher and OpenNI friends, but it isn't showing up in Izzy. Ive deleted prefs and restarted, but it's still shy.

    I'm in Catalina at the moment and it worked for me, so I would expect it to work elsewhere. (I made sure it was un-quarantined first.)

    Try throwing away the file at ~/Library/Preferences/com.troikatronix.isadora.scanned-plugins-v3_0.txt and restart Isadora. Does that help?

    Best Wishes,
    Mark



  • @mark

    no, still not showing up. (i'm still using High Sierra)

    Isadora doesn't do that 'scanning for plugins' thing whilst starting up any more... (but Grapher and OpenNI are still available)

    thanks, john



  • @dbini said:

    no, still not showing up. (i'm still using High Sierra)

     I will be able to try it on High Sierra later today. To be clear, you're not downloading the version 2 plugin by accident are you? Or trying to use this plugin with Isadora 2?

    This is the link to the 64-bit plugin for Isadora 3.

    https://troikatronix.com/plugi...

    Is anyone else having trouble?

    Best Wishes,
    Mark


  • Beta Platinum

    Hi @mark, @dbini,

    No trouble ...



  • @mark

    I've downloaded that file 4 times now to make sure ;) - and trying to run on Izzy3.03b7. The other Plugins in the same folder appear, but Rutt isn't in the menu and doesn't come up when i doubleclick the scene window and type the name.


  • Tech Staff

    @dbini

    You could try deleting the 'scanned-plugins' file. That will cause isadora to rescan all plugins. Unfortunately I'm away from the office and cant remember the exact filename or path.

    [EDIT: I already made this suggestion; the file is at~/Library/Preferences/com.troikatronix.isadora.scanned-plugins-v3_0.txt on MacOS]

    The path starts with '~' and the filename contains plugins, scanned and troikatronix.


  • Tech Staff

    I just testing installing the Plugin on my High Sierra partition. 
    Dropped it in the folder 'IsadoraPlugins_x64' and started up a few version of Isadora (3.0.2 and the same as you are running) and its available in each.
    @mark let me know if you can think of any changes I need to make to my system to better match Johns.



  • @dusx

    thanks for looking Ryan. i'm going to fire up a different machine and test that one later...



  • @dusx said:

    @mark let me know if you can think of any changes I need to make to my system to better match Johns.

     I honestly cannot think of anything else to suggest. But here's an extra extensive list:

    1) Quit Isadora
    2) Erase the file ~/Library/Preferences/com.troikatronix.isadora.scanned-plugins-v3_0.txt
    3) Erase any other com.troikatronix.XXX files you see in this folder
    4) Erase the Isadora preferences ~/Library/Preferences/ -- basically I would erase them all if possible
    5) Erase the plugin from the IsadoraPlugins_x64 folder
    6) Start Isadora and choose Help > Open Plugin Folder > TroikaTronix Actor Plugins to make 1000% sure you're opening the right folder
    7) Unzip the v002 Rutt Etra v1.2 distribution downloaded from here: https://troikatronix.com/plugi...
    8) Go into v002 Rutt Etra Plugin > Macintosh. There should just be one the one plugin file: v002 Rutt Etra.izzyplug inside.
    9) Move that one file into the folder that opened in step 6
    10) Quit and Restart Isadora



  • @mark 

    I've followed these steps and its still not showing up!!!!!!! on the other hand I installed it first time on a Yosemite machine running Isadora on my USB key version.

    I made a user actor with it in and copied this over to my High Sierra machine. did a Place User Actor to bring it in. it shows up in the scene, but doesn't work, so the plugin is not installing correctly in the IsadoraPlugins_x64 folder.

     



  • @dbini said:

    @mark I've followed these steps and its still not showing up!!!!!!! on the other hand I installed it first time on a Yosemite machine running Isadora on my USB key version.

     Wow I really can't fathom this. But your sentance is a little unclear: "on the other hand I installed it first time on a Yosemite machine running Isadora on my USB key version." -- did you mean to say "...installed it and it worked the first time"???? Did it work or not work on Yosemite?

    We've tried it on multiple versions of MacOS and on multiple machines and it worked fine and no one else has reported trouble.

    What if you try this: 

    1) Open Terminal window
    2) Enter xattr followed by a space
    3) Drag the v002 Rutt Etra.izzyplug file to the terminal Window -- this will in add the full path to the plugin in the Terminal window
    4) Hit return

    What does it report? Do you see "com.apple.quarantine", which indicates it's quarantined?

    Regadless of what you see, please do this:

    1) Open Terminal window
    2) Enter sudo xattr -c followed by a space
    3) Drag the v002 Rutt Etra.izzyplug file to the terminal Window -- this will in add the full path to the plugin in the Terminal window
    4) Hit return
    5) Enter your administrator password

    Now try opening Isadora. Does it load?

    The only solution I can imagine is sending you a specially built version that will show dialogs when it attempts to load the plugin and report errors. This will take some time I'm afraid.

    Best Wisehs,
    Mark



  • @mark

    what i meant in the previous reply was that I booted up a different Mac, dropped the RuttEtra plug into the plugins folder, restarted Isadora and it showed up, no problem.

    but my main Mac doesn't like it.

    I did the Terminal stuff you suggested. it didn't show up as quarantined. i tried the sudo xattr -c command - Isadora opened as normal but the plugin didn't load. i'm in no hurry to get using the plugin at the moment, but it would be nice to know why its not loading.....



  • @dbini said:

    but it would be nice to know why its not loading.....

     That makes two of us. Thanks for trying. I'm out of ideas at the moment.



  • @mark

    I found a fix for it. i renamed the Plugin in its folder (took the v002 off of the start because that's also what the 32bit version was called) and it loaded no problem. 



  • @dbini said:

    I found a fix for it. i renamed the Plugin in its folder (took the v002 off of the start because that's also what the 32bit version was called) and it loaded no problem.

     That's totally wacky. I can't imagine why this worked.



  • @mark

    I think that ages ago i tried to put the original 32bit Rutt Etra plugin into the Izzy3 plugin folder to see if it would work. obviously it didn't, but maybe my Mac made a note of that and kept it in a hidden file somewhere? it might be worth renaming the plugin, just in case it catches anyone else out.....