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    [ANSWERED] ​Rutt Etra Isadora 3

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    • dbini
      dbini @mark last edited by dbini

      @mark

      no, still not showing up. (i'm still using High Sierra)

      Isadora doesn't do that 'scanning for plugins' thing whilst starting up any more... (but Grapher and OpenNI are still available)

      thanks, john

      John Collingswood
      taikabox.com
      2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
      plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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      • mark
        mark @dbini last edited by

        @dbini said:

        no, still not showing up. (i'm still using High Sierra)

         I will be able to try it on High Sierra later today. To be clear, you're not downloading the version 2 plugin by accident are you? Or trying to use this plugin with Isadora 2?

        This is the link to the 64-bit plugin for Isadora 3.

        https://troikatronix.com/plugi...

        Is anyone else having trouble?

        Best Wishes,
        Mark

        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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        • bonemap
          bonemap Izzy Guru last edited by bonemap

          Hi @mark, @dbini,

          No trouble ...

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          • dbini
            dbini @mark last edited by

            @mark

            I've downloaded that file 4 times now to make sure ;) - and trying to run on Izzy3.03b7. The other Plugins in the same folder appear, but Rutt isn't in the menu and doesn't come up when i doubleclick the scene window and type the name.

            John Collingswood
            taikabox.com
            2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
            plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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            • DusX
              DusX Tech Staff @dbini last edited by mark

              @dbini

              You could try deleting the 'scanned-plugins' file. That will cause isadora to rescan all plugins. Unfortunately I'm away from the office and cant remember the exact filename or path.

              [EDIT: I already made this suggestion; the file is at~/Library/Preferences/com.troikatronix.isadora.scanned-plugins-v3_0.txt on MacOS]

              The path starts with '~' and the filename contains plugins, scanned and troikatronix.

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              • DusX
                DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                I just testing installing the Plugin on my High Sierra partition. 
                Dropped it in the folder 'IsadoraPlugins_x64' and started up a few version of Isadora (3.0.2 and the same as you are running) and its available in each.
                @mark let me know if you can think of any changes I need to make to my system to better match Johns.

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                • dbini
                  dbini @DusX last edited by

                  @dusx

                  thanks for looking Ryan. i'm going to fire up a different machine and test that one later...

                  John Collingswood
                  taikabox.com
                  2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                  plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                  • mark
                    mark @DusX last edited by mark

                    @dusx said:

                    @mark let me know if you can think of any changes I need to make to my system to better match Johns.

                     I honestly cannot think of anything else to suggest. But here's an extra extensive list:

                    1) Quit Isadora
                    2) Erase the file ~/Library/Preferences/com.troikatronix.isadora.scanned-plugins-v3_0.txt
                    3) Erase any other com.troikatronix.XXX files you see in this folder
                    4) Erase the Isadora preferences ~/Library/Preferences/ -- basically I would erase them all if possible
                    5) Erase the plugin from the IsadoraPlugins_x64 folder
                    6) Start Isadora and choose Help > Open Plugin Folder > TroikaTronix Actor Plugins to make 1000% sure you're opening the right folder
                    7) Unzip the v002 Rutt Etra v1.2 distribution downloaded from here: https://troikatronix.com/plugi...
                    8) Go into v002 Rutt Etra Plugin > Macintosh. There should just be one the one plugin file: v002 Rutt Etra.izzyplug inside.
                    9) Move that one file into the folder that opened in step 6
                    10) Quit and Restart Isadora

                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                    • dbini
                      dbini last edited by

                      @mark 

                      I've followed these steps and its still not showing up!!!!!!! on the other hand I installed it first time on a Yosemite machine running Isadora on my USB key version.

                      I made a user actor with it in and copied this over to my High Sierra machine. did a Place User Actor to bring it in. it shows up in the scene, but doesn't work, so the plugin is not installing correctly in the IsadoraPlugins_x64 folder.

                       

                      John Collingswood
                      taikabox.com
                      2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                      plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                      • mark
                        mark @dbini last edited by mark

                        @dbini said:

                        @mark I've followed these steps and its still not showing up!!!!!!! on the other hand I installed it first time on a Yosemite machine running Isadora on my USB key version.

                         Wow I really can't fathom this. But your sentance is a little unclear: "on the other hand I installed it first time on a Yosemite machine running Isadora on my USB key version." -- did you mean to say "...installed it and it worked the first time"???? Did it work or not work on Yosemite?

                        We've tried it on multiple versions of MacOS and on multiple machines and it worked fine and no one else has reported trouble.

                        What if you try this: 

                        1) Open Terminal window
                        2) Enter xattr followed by a space
                        3) Drag the v002 Rutt Etra.izzyplug file to the terminal Window -- this will in add the full path to the plugin in the Terminal window
                        4) Hit return

                        What does it report? Do you see "com.apple.quarantine", which indicates it's quarantined?

                        Regadless of what you see, please do this:

                        1) Open Terminal window
                        2) Enter sudo xattr -c followed by a space
                        3) Drag the v002 Rutt Etra.izzyplug file to the terminal Window -- this will in add the full path to the plugin in the Terminal window
                        4) Hit return
                        5) Enter your administrator password

                        Now try opening Isadora. Does it load?

                        The only solution I can imagine is sending you a specially built version that will show dialogs when it attempts to load the plugin and report errors. This will take some time I'm afraid.

                        Best Wisehs,
                        Mark

                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                        • dbini
                          dbini @mark last edited by

                          @mark

                          what i meant in the previous reply was that I booted up a different Mac, dropped the RuttEtra plug into the plugins folder, restarted Isadora and it showed up, no problem.

                          but my main Mac doesn't like it.

                          I did the Terminal stuff you suggested. it didn't show up as quarantined. i tried the sudo xattr -c command - Isadora opened as normal but the plugin didn't load. i'm in no hurry to get using the plugin at the moment, but it would be nice to know why its not loading.....

                          John Collingswood
                          taikabox.com
                          2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                          plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                          • mark
                            mark @dbini last edited by

                            @dbini said:

                            but it would be nice to know why its not loading.....

                             That makes two of us. Thanks for trying. I'm out of ideas at the moment.

                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                            • dbini
                              dbini @mark last edited by

                              @mark

                              I found a fix for it. i renamed the Plugin in its folder (took the v002 off of the start because that's also what the 32bit version was called) and it loaded no problem. 

                              John Collingswood
                              taikabox.com
                              2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                              plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                              • mark
                                mark @dbini last edited by

                                @dbini said:

                                I found a fix for it. i renamed the Plugin in its folder (took the v002 off of the start because that's also what the 32bit version was called) and it loaded no problem.

                                 That's totally wacky. I can't imagine why this worked.

                                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                • dbini
                                  dbini @mark last edited by

                                  @mark

                                  I think that ages ago i tried to put the original 32bit Rutt Etra plugin into the Izzy3 plugin folder to see if it would work. obviously it didn't, but maybe my Mac made a note of that and kept it in a hidden file somewhere? it might be worth renaming the plugin, just in case it catches anyone else out.....

                                  John Collingswood
                                  taikabox.com
                                  2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                  plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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