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      judgeworks Beta Silver @mark last edited by judgeworks

      @mark I Ran Syphon Virtual Webcam >Help>Install OBS Virtual Camera Plugin and it DID then take me thru the download procedure.

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        mark @judgeworks last edited by

        @judgeworks said:

        it DID then take me thru the download procedure.

        Weird!!! OK. Thanks for doing that. Much appreciated.

        Best Wishes,
        Mark

        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          ronnie last edited by

          i cannot use any of my webcam software on my computer. i uninstalled it and re-installed it. it doesn't work and now neither does iglasses and facetime. please help.

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            mark @ronnie last edited by mark

            @ronnie said:

            i cannot use any of my webcam software on my computer. i uninstalled it and re-installed it. it doesn't work and now neither does iglasses and facetime. please help.

            Can you help us understand this problem by telling us what version of MacOS you are using?

            To uninstall the OBS Virtual Camera plugin do the following:

            1) In the Finder choose Go to Folder... from the Go menu.
            2) In the dialog that appears enter the following text and hit the "Go" button

            /Library/CoreMediaIO/Plug-Ins/DAL/

            3) Delete obs-mac-virtualcam.plugin
            4) Restart your computer.

            Let me know if that works and sorry for the trouble.

            Best Wishes,
            Mark

            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            • GertjanB
              GertjanB Beta Platinum last edited by

              Hi,

              Great tool, I have been using it a lot, even in calls with the family just to have some fun with the webcam.

              When using zoom or Skype I don't have any problems.

              But when I am using it in a website in Google chrome (google meet, or website I use to teach). After a while the virtual webcam starts freezing,
              After a while the hole screen freezes, sound still comes trough and they can still hear me but it looks like the graphics card is completely blocked. Then the fans kik in like my Macbook thinks it can fly. And then after a while my machine crashes completely.

              It happens only after a while, sometimes 15 minutes, sometimes more than an hour so its hard to pinpoint the exact problem.

              I don't know if other people have the same experience?

              MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2019) / OS: 10.15.7 / processor: 2,3 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 / Memory: 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 / Graphicscard: AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB - Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB

              Kind regards
              Groeten
              Gertjan

              www.gertjanbiasino.be

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                Michel Izzy Guru @GertjanB last edited by Michel

                @gertjanb

                Do you only see this with chrome or also other browsers? If only in chrome this post could explain a reason:

                https://community.troikatronix...

                Best Michel

                Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                • GertjanB
                  GertjanB Beta Platinum @Michel last edited by

                  @michel

                  I only use chrome for video group calls because the website of my school works best on chrome.
                  I never use it for other things so It is possible this is the problem. I'll do the next online rehearsal in an other browser and let you know if that was the problem.

                  www.gertjanbiasino.be

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                  • Woland
                    Woland Tech Staff last edited by Woland

                    @gertjanb said:

                    It happens only after a while, sometimes 15 minutes, sometimes more than an hour so its hard to pinpoint the exact problem.

                     I've had this exact experience on my 2013 Mac Pro trashcan on multiple versions of macOS. I can't seem to nail it down though.'

                    If I try to force quit Syphon Virtual Webcam when it's being flickery or frozen, then it freezes my whole screen but audio still comes through. Eventually it unfreezes with no other ill effects, but I can't reproduce it reliably.

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                    • GertjanB
                      GertjanB Beta Platinum @Woland last edited by

                      @woland @Michel

                      I'm still testing and I'm not completely sure its a chrome thing.

                      If I'm using chrome without the virtual webcam I don't have any problems.(even now after half a day of video calls on chrome)

                      and last time I also had a problem via zoom (but I forgot to close down chrome so maybe its a combination thing)

                      www.gertjanbiasino.be

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                        triggwatson last edited by

                        I'm having issues getting the OBS Virtual Cam to display the feed coming from Syphon Virtual Cam. As you can see in the screenshot below, I've got the media displaying in Syphon Virtual Webcam. However, when I select "OBS Virtual Webcam" as a source in another application (in this case zoom), I get a blue OBS graphic. Has anyone else had this issue? 

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                          mark @triggwatson last edited by mark

                          @triggwatson said:

                          I'm having issues getting the OBS Virtual Cam to display the feed coming from Syphon Virtual Cam.

                          Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I was able to reproduce this with the latest version of OBS.

                          You can read more (and find a workaround) in this forum post about this issue, which I've just posted because of your issue.

                          Best Wishes,
                          Mark

                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                            Weston @GertjanB last edited by

                            @gertjanb @Woland @Michel came here to say I've been experiencing this exact random graphics freezing problem on my 2017 macbook pro(mojave). While admittedly I did have chrome running in the background for other reasons, my freezes happened during an isadora -> syphon virtual webcam -> zoom workflow.  


                            MacBook Pro 15" 2017 | Mojave 10.14.6
                            2.8 Ghz Intel Core i7 | 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 | Radeon Pro 560 4GB

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                              mark last edited by

                              @triggwatson said:

                              I'm having issues getting the OBS Virtual Cam to display the feed coming from Syphon Virtual Cam.

                              Here is an updated version of Syphon Virtual Webcam that works with both the old driver and the new driver included with OBS 26.1. Please give it a try and let me know if it solves your issue. (That is, using OBS's driver, not the workaround one I mentioned to you before.)

                              syphon-virtual-webcam-v0.9.6.zip

                              Best Wishes,
                              Mark

                              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                Kathmandale @Weston last edited by

                                @weston @GertjanB @Woland @Michel I've had a similar thing, not using chrome but as @Weston said it was in an Izzy - SVWC - Zoom workflow. It happened a couple of times a little while ago but hasn't happened for ages. I suspected it was more of a zoom issue and had been fixed with one of their updates, I didn't report it sorry as I couldn't pin down.

                                It was a very strange thing, the whole screen would freeze up and stay frozen for a little while as the fans went full throttle, audio would carry on as normal but the machine seemed otherwise unresponsive. After a short time the screen would un-freeze and then, certainly in zoom, seem to play back the missing minutes at a very fast speed until the video caught up with the sound. Full on VHS fast-forward. I thought it was more zoom related as I couldn't imagine that sort of behaviour happening locally. This was on my mac (as in my tag line).

                                It's not done it for a few months now despite having the same set up on numerous occasions. I had a feeling it might happen if I was turning on or off or switching the syphon feed, showing/hiding stages, changing back to non-virtual camera in zoom, something like that. The couple of times it did it I was always quite near an event and didn't have much time to troubleshoot so I've not actively tried to re-create the problem, but I can give it a go.

                                2014 MBP Mojave 10.14.6 OS with 16GB, 2.5Ghz i7 quad core, Intel Iris Pro 1536 & Geforce GT 750m 2GB - Izzy 3.0.8
                                Gigabyte Brix Windows 10 with 32GB, i7-6700 quad core, 4GB GeForce GTX 950 - Izzy 3.0.8
                                Based in Manchester, UK.

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                                  jfg @mark last edited by

                                  @mark

                                  With a simple configuration (Syphon server>Syphon-Virtual-Webcam > Isadora Input) the new syphon-virtual-webcam works well for me in b29 and b41. In b38 I cannot see the picture in the Live Capture Settings window (Icon and Preview Window) but I get the picture in the Video Input and in the stage.

                                  best

                                  Jean-François 

                                  • Izzy 3.2.6
                                  - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia
                                  - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ),
                                  Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
                                  - Mac mini Pro M4, Mac OS 15.3.2 Sequoia

                                  • A range of deployable older Macs
                                    Located in Bremen, Germany
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                                  • GertjanB
                                    GertjanB Beta Platinum last edited by

                                    Good news,

                                    I just had a full day of very long only meetings, in google meet (chrome) and zoom. (one time even 2 meetings at the same time meet & zoom)

                                    I did all the meetings trough Isadora and syphon virtual webcam (also because I have made a handy tool with the buffer and a random value player so it looks like I'm present)

                                    And I didn't have any crashes or freezes. (after now 10h).

                                    www.gertjanbiasino.be

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                                    • mark
                                      mark @jfg last edited by mark

                                      @jfg

                                      Thanks for testing, but don't worry about b38. I tested in 3.0.7 and the latest beta (b44) and Isadora accepts the virtual webcam fine. 

                                      For the benefit of those new to Isadora: because Isadora accepts Syphon natively, there is no reason to use Syphon Virtual Webcam as an input to Isadora. You should just use the Syphon Receiver actor to receive the signal directly.

                                      Best Wishes,
                                      Mark

                                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                      • dbini
                                        dbini @mark last edited by

                                        hello everyone, I've been pushing Syphon Virtual Webcam pretty hard today and had a couple of freezes. i'm running video out of Isadora thru SVW into OBS.Ninja in Chrome. twice today the image froze up at my end and the people on the other end of Ninja said that there was a message from SVW on their screen. I closed SVW and the whole computer froze up and needed hard rebooting. same thing both times (i didn't have time to wait to see if it would come back to life on its own)
                                        its the latest version of SVW from the plugins page on my MacBook Pro running 10.13.6.

                                        John Collingswood
                                        taikabox.com
                                        2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                        plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                                          mark @dbini last edited by

                                          @dbini said:

                                          i'm running video out of Isadora thru SVW into OBS.Ninja in Chrome. twice today the image froze up at my end and the people on the other end of Ninja said that there was a message from SVW on their screen

                                          OK. I've never worked with Ninja, so we can give this a try.

                                          Importance Questions: Please Answer in your reply!

                                          Do you have OBS v26.1 or later installed on your computer?

                                          What was the resolution of the source image?

                                          And what message did SVW display exactly? It doesn't display a message... the only thing it will do is to show the "test pattern" screen if the connection drops. Is that what they mean?

                                          Best Wishes,
                                          Mark

                                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                          • dbini
                                            dbini @mark last edited by

                                            @mark

                                            hi Mark,

                                            i have OBS v23.1 installed, but probably installed v26 last Summer, and then uninstalled it and reverted to v23 when i discovered i couldn't use a Ninja link as a browser source. i usually use AppZapper to remove stuff, but it may have left something behind.

                                            source image is 1280x800 to match the projectors we're using.

                                            the Hungarian company said that they got a message onscreen saying something like Syphon Virtual Webcam has stopped working. it was a bit difficult to tell what was going on at the time because of the video freezing and me trying to work out what was going on. the message may have been generated by Ninja.

                                            cheers,

                                            john

                                            John Collingswood
                                            taikabox.com
                                            2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                                            plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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