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    [SOLVED] Whoops. Open Isadora File Loop

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    • dbini
      dbini @Woland last edited by

      @woland
      Thanks L, that first method sorted it, although pausing the engine didn't work, but I edited the patch in blind mode. I knew there would be a way around. Maybe the default setting could be changed to 'None' ... feature request??

      John Collingswood
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      • Woland
        Woland Tech Staff @dbini last edited by

        @dbini said:

        Maybe the default setting could be changed to 'None' ... feature request??

        I don't think this is something we want to change actually. Most people want their first Scene to start up immediately when they launch the program, especially installations. I think changing the default behavior here specifically to address the edge case of when someone has accidentally programmed a loop would serve fewer users than keeping this particular setting the way it is.

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        • Woland
          Woland Tech Staff @dbini last edited by

          @dbini said:

          although pausing the engine didn't work

          You probably could have used that method to launch without activating a Scene then use the keyboard shortcut or menu option to create a new Scene and then paused it from that new, blank Scene. I didn't think of it before now though.

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          • dbini
            dbini @Woland last edited by

            @woland
            The pause engine thing worked with no scene active, but when i activated the offending scene, it did the open/close thing anyway, despite the engine being paused. 
            And, sorry I wasn't clear with the feature request - i meant within the Open Isadora File actor - I think the Close Mode input should default to 'none' so that when you trigger the trigger, it doesn't immediately close the current file, unless you really want it to. It's a bit scary testing the actor and the whole window disappears. at first i thought it was a crash, but then no crash report popped up.

            John Collingswood
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            • Woland
              Woland Tech Staff @dbini last edited by Woland

              @dbini said:

              And, sorry I wasn't clear with the feature request - i meant within the Open Isadora File actor - I think the Close Mode input should default to 'none' so that when you trigger the trigger, it doesn't immediately close the current file, unless you really want it to. It's a bit scary testing the actor and the whole window disappears. at first i thought it was a crash, but then no crash report popped up.

               Ah, that's a very reasonable request. I'll log this tomorrow. Also, the actor still operating when the engine is paused sounds like a bug. I'll investigate that too.

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              • Armando
                Armando Beta Gold @Woland last edited by

                @woland Thanks L,great solutions. I'll just add my 2 cents here. What about a "Pause engine" key combo at startup ? A little bit like a recovery mode on mac os..... Mayb eit is completely stupid.

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                • dbini
                  dbini last edited by

                  I just found another solution: Change the name of the actual target file so that the actor throws up an error when it is triggered. Simple. (I have most of my best ideas whilst in the shower)

                  John Collingswood
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                  • Armando
                    Armando Beta Gold @dbini last edited by

                    @dbini Simply genius. I would have never thought of that. 👊

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                    • Woland
                      Woland Tech Staff @Armando last edited by Woland

                      @armando said:

                      What about a "Pause engine" key combo at startup ? A little bit like a recovery mode on mac os..... Mayb eit is completely stupid.

                      Actually, I realized this is completely unnecessary and that there's an even simpler solution than my original ones. 

                      Pause Engine is a program-wide action, it's not file-specific. This means you can:

                      1. Open a different file (or no file).
                      2. Pause the engine.
                      3. Open the problem file.
                      4. The engine is paused so nothing in the problem file will execute.

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                      • Woland
                        Woland Tech Staff @dbini last edited by

                        @dbini said:

                        The pause engine thing worked with no scene active, but when i activated the offending scene, it did the open/close thing anyway, despite the engine being paused.

                         I can't seem to reproduce this behavior. Could you please try to make it happen again and provide me with more detailed info so I can log this if it is a bug?

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                        • dbini
                          dbini @Woland last edited by

                          @woland - ticket submitted

                          John Collingswood
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                          • Woland
                            Woland Tech Staff @dbini last edited by

                            @dbini

                            Great, your steps caused it for me and I've logged it. Thanks for the assist :)

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