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    • dbini
      dbini last edited by

      Hello,

      I'm sure its easy, but i can't seem to get it worked out: how to use Isadora Virtual Out as a MIDI controller in Ableton.
      anybody done this?
      john

      John Collingswood
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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        is this any help?

        http://vjskulpture.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/isadora-ableton-and-virtual-midi/

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        • Skulpture
          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

          It was a video I did a long time ago so its not HD sorry....

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          • fypy
            fypy last edited by

            Hi Excuse my poor english, I am french Well, i suppose you work with a PC, and not a Mac. Because it is simple on a Mac, due to CoreMidi. On PC, you have to find a virtual midi internal patcher. I founded one once, but i am not at home, and don't remember the name of the program... I will help as soon as I can. Francois

            French composer for the theater, the movies, and other
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            • Skulpture
              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

              Good point; so I guess the main question is Mac or PC? I forget what all you users use - adding it in your signature helps :)

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              • djinoui
                djinoui last edited by

                There are many virtual MIDI cables but this one works well on Windows:  http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

                Didn't try it from Isadora to Ableton, though.

                Computer: Asus N76VZ PC, Windows 7x64, Intel I7, 6G RAM, Isadora v1.3.1f06
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                • dbini
                  dbini last edited by

                  for this project, i'm on Mac. Skulpture - i followed your tutorial on Vimeo, but instead of playing MIDI files, i'm aiming to stream data over MIDI to control  parameters in Ableton, in the same way that a physical MIDI controller would do.

                  i've linked the 2 together directly, but the only evidence of this doing anything is that when i set up Live to assign a MIDI controller number to a parameter (eg: volume fader of a channel) then go into Isadora and click on All Notes Off in the Communications menu, i get a random channel/number/pitch assigned to the parameter in Live.

                  John Collingswood
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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                    It's the same just in reverse really. In fact will make a quick video for you @dbini

                    /edited/

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                    • dbini
                      dbini last edited by

                      G - wrong way round. i need to send controller data from Izzy to Live, rather than listen for it, so i don't think a Control Watcher will do it.

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                      • dbini
                        dbini last edited by

                        I was thinking a Send Raw MIDI actor might be useful, but its not quite the right thing

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          The video is online but is only low quality at the minute - it will get better soon as YouTube process it:

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BWU2Q3dP-4

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                          • vanakaru
                            vanakaru last edited by

                            works just as shown above

                            MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              I've just updated the video with annotations too.

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                              • dbini
                                dbini last edited by

                                Awesome! - nailed it! i had forgotten about Send Control.

                                John Collingswood
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                                • Skulpture
                                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                  Great - glad you are sorted. Don't forget to change the Controller Number each time you add a new one. ;)

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                                  RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
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                                  • dbini
                                    dbini last edited by

                                    yeah - and set up all the Control Sends and activate them one at a time when MIDI Learning. i'm only looking at 6 controllers so it shouldn't get too complicated.

                                    thanks G, that's another pint i owe you...

                                    John Collingswood
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                                    • Fred
                                      Fred last edited by

                                      you may find that to use a note as a control you will also have to send the note off with a small delay afterwards (Which can be just a send note with velocity set to zero).

                                      http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
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                                      • dbini
                                        dbini last edited by

                                        now i'm trying to do the same thing on a WIndows machine: send MIDI control from Izzy to Ableton. Windows doesn't have the Isadora Virtual MIDI function, so does anyone know how i can do this?

                                        john

                                        John Collingswood
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                                        2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
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                                        • Skulpture
                                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                          http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/virtualmidi.html

                                          Might work - never used it but have it in my bookmarks. 

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                                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
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                                          • dbini
                                            dbini last edited by

                                            cheers Graham - loopMIDI works beautifully (http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html)

                                            john

                                            John Collingswood
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