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    • fypy
      fypy last edited by

      Hi Excuse my poor english, I am french Well, i suppose you work with a PC, and not a Mac. Because it is simple on a Mac, due to CoreMidi. On PC, you have to find a virtual midi internal patcher. I founded one once, but i am not at home, and don't remember the name of the program... I will help as soon as I can. Francois

      French composer for the theater, the movies, and other
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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        Good point; so I guess the main question is Mac or PC? I forget what all you users use - adding it in your signature helps :)

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        • djinoui
          djinoui last edited by

          There are many virtual MIDI cables but this one works well on Windows:  http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

          Didn't try it from Isadora to Ableton, though.

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          • dbini
            dbini last edited by

            for this project, i'm on Mac. Skulpture - i followed your tutorial on Vimeo, but instead of playing MIDI files, i'm aiming to stream data over MIDI to control  parameters in Ableton, in the same way that a physical MIDI controller would do.

            i've linked the 2 together directly, but the only evidence of this doing anything is that when i set up Live to assign a MIDI controller number to a parameter (eg: volume fader of a channel) then go into Isadora and click on All Notes Off in the Communications menu, i get a random channel/number/pitch assigned to the parameter in Live.

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            • Skulpture
              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

              It's the same just in reverse really. In fact will make a quick video for you @dbini

              /edited/

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              • dbini
                dbini last edited by

                G - wrong way round. i need to send controller data from Izzy to Live, rather than listen for it, so i don't think a Control Watcher will do it.

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                • dbini
                  dbini last edited by

                  I was thinking a Send Raw MIDI actor might be useful, but its not quite the right thing

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                  • Skulpture
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                    The video is online but is only low quality at the minute - it will get better soon as YouTube process it:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BWU2Q3dP-4

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                    • vanakaru
                      vanakaru last edited by

                      works just as shown above

                      MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                      • Skulpture
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                        I've just updated the video with annotations too.

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                        • dbini
                          dbini last edited by

                          Awesome! - nailed it! i had forgotten about Send Control.

                          John Collingswood
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                          • Skulpture
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                            Great - glad you are sorted. Don't forget to change the Controller Number each time you add a new one. ;)

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                            • dbini
                              dbini last edited by

                              yeah - and set up all the Control Sends and activate them one at a time when MIDI Learning. i'm only looking at 6 controllers so it shouldn't get too complicated.

                              thanks G, that's another pint i owe you...

                              John Collingswood
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                              plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                              • Fred
                                Fred last edited by

                                you may find that to use a note as a control you will also have to send the note off with a small delay afterwards (Which can be just a send note with velocity set to zero).

                                http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
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                                • dbini
                                  dbini last edited by

                                  now i'm trying to do the same thing on a WIndows machine: send MIDI control from Izzy to Ableton. Windows doesn't have the Isadora Virtual MIDI function, so does anyone know how i can do this?

                                  john

                                  John Collingswood
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                                  • Skulpture
                                    Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                    http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/virtualmidi.html

                                    Might work - never used it but have it in my bookmarks. 

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                                    • dbini
                                      dbini last edited by

                                      cheers Graham - loopMIDI works beautifully (http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html)

                                      john

                                      John Collingswood
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                                      • Skulpture
                                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                        Cool - glad it's worked.

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                                        • WhiteFly
                                          WhiteFly last edited by

                                          Hello,

                                          I am using Isadora and Ableton Live "talking" via MIDI, in both directions, perfectly on Mac (Isadora MIDI ports) and PC / Windows 7 (VirtualMIDI ports) almost two years.
                                          (http://vimeo.com/84267089)
                                          But I could not monitor and control the MIDI timecode and track the position of the cursor on Ableton Live.
                                          Anyone have any idea how to do this?
                                          neo

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                                          • Skulpture
                                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                            Is this any help?

                                            http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/discussion/298/timecode-calculator-comparator/p1

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