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    • Skulpture
      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

      is this any help?

      http://vjskulpture.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/isadora-ableton-and-virtual-midi/

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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        It was a video I did a long time ago so its not HD sorry....

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        • fypy
          fypy last edited by

          Hi Excuse my poor english, I am french Well, i suppose you work with a PC, and not a Mac. Because it is simple on a Mac, due to CoreMidi. On PC, you have to find a virtual midi internal patcher. I founded one once, but i am not at home, and don't remember the name of the program... I will help as soon as I can. Francois

          French composer for the theater, the movies, and other
          http://www.peyrony.com/ and http://www.99-33.com/

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            Good point; so I guess the main question is Mac or PC? I forget what all you users use - adding it in your signature helps :)

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            • djinoui
              djinoui last edited by

              There are many virtual MIDI cables but this one works well on Windows:  http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

              Didn't try it from Isadora to Ableton, though.

              Computer: Asus N76VZ PC, Windows 7x64, Intel I7, 6G RAM, Isadora v1.3.1f06
              Isadora SDK dev computer: VirtualBox PC, Windows XPx32, 2G RAM, Isadora v1.3.1f06

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              • dbini
                dbini last edited by

                for this project, i'm on Mac. Skulpture - i followed your tutorial on Vimeo, but instead of playing MIDI files, i'm aiming to stream data over MIDI to control  parameters in Ableton, in the same way that a physical MIDI controller would do.

                i've linked the 2 together directly, but the only evidence of this doing anything is that when i set up Live to assign a MIDI controller number to a parameter (eg: volume fader of a channel) then go into Isadora and click on All Notes Off in the Communications menu, i get a random channel/number/pitch assigned to the parameter in Live.

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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                  It's the same just in reverse really. In fact will make a quick video for you @dbini

                  /edited/

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                  • dbini
                    dbini last edited by

                    G - wrong way round. i need to send controller data from Izzy to Live, rather than listen for it, so i don't think a Control Watcher will do it.

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                    • dbini
                      dbini last edited by

                      I was thinking a Send Raw MIDI actor might be useful, but its not quite the right thing

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                      • Skulpture
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                        The video is online but is only low quality at the minute - it will get better soon as YouTube process it:

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BWU2Q3dP-4

                        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                        RIG 2: Laptop MSI Vector 16 HX AI: Windows 11, Intel Ultra 9. RTX5070ti, 32G RAM (DDR5 6000htz), NVME M.2 SSD.
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                        • vanakaru
                          vanakaru last edited by

                          works just as shown above

                          MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                          • Skulpture
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                            I've just updated the video with annotations too.

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                            RIG 2: Laptop MSI Vector 16 HX AI: Windows 11, Intel Ultra 9. RTX5070ti, 32G RAM (DDR5 6000htz), NVME M.2 SSD.
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                            • dbini
                              dbini last edited by

                              Awesome! - nailed it! i had forgotten about Send Control.

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                              • Skulpture
                                Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                Great - glad you are sorted. Don't forget to change the Controller Number each time you add a new one. ;)

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                                • dbini
                                  dbini last edited by

                                  yeah - and set up all the Control Sends and activate them one at a time when MIDI Learning. i'm only looking at 6 controllers so it shouldn't get too complicated.

                                  thanks G, that's another pint i owe you...

                                  John Collingswood
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                                  • Fred
                                    Fred last edited by

                                    you may find that to use a note as a control you will also have to send the note off with a small delay afterwards (Which can be just a send note with velocity set to zero).

                                    http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
                                    https://github.com/fred-dev
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                                    • dbini
                                      dbini last edited by

                                      now i'm trying to do the same thing on a WIndows machine: send MIDI control from Izzy to Ableton. Windows doesn't have the Isadora Virtual MIDI function, so does anyone know how i can do this?

                                      john

                                      John Collingswood
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                                      • Skulpture
                                        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                        http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/virtualmidi.html

                                        Might work - never used it but have it in my bookmarks. 

                                        Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                        RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                        RIG 2: Laptop MSI Vector 16 HX AI: Windows 11, Intel Ultra 9. RTX5070ti, 32G RAM (DDR5 6000htz), NVME M.2 SSD.
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                                        • dbini
                                          dbini last edited by

                                          cheers Graham - loopMIDI works beautifully (http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html)

                                          john

                                          John Collingswood
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                                          • Skulpture
                                            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                            Cool - glad it's worked.

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                                            RIG 2: Laptop MSI Vector 16 HX AI: Windows 11, Intel Ultra 9. RTX5070ti, 32G RAM (DDR5 6000htz), NVME M.2 SSD.
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