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    Isadora 2.0 - Responses and Reactions from the Community

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    • mark
      mark last edited by

      Yes, let's do hear it for the team: Michel, Graham, Jamie and Ryan have been incredible these last weeks. I couldn't have done it without them. We in the community, and I especially, owe them a big round of applause.

      -- Mark

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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      • mockej
        mockej last edited by

        @mark thanks for the detailed feedback!

        Sticking with vid-gpu seems then to work only with the Texture Projector, otherwise it switches the movie player to vid-cpu upstream when using the Classic. (maybe I am missing something - will there be a "Projector" without any prefix, like with the Movie Player?)
        A lot to learn still, and it is reasonable to assume that documentation will still take a while - as it should! 
        ... so patience appreciated.
        Many thanks as always
        m

        rMBP (2015) i7, 16gig, AMD Radeon R9 M370X, OS X 10.15 | located in Johannesburg, South Africa

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        • crystalhorizon
          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

          Regarding the codecs: for best performance without scrubbing or looping, which codec is now the one to go: HAP, H264, AppleProRes or still like it was till now PhotoJpeg?

          Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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          • Skulpture
            Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

            @feinsinn I would say h264 at the moment but HAP is pretty rapid also.

            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
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            • crystalhorizon
              crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

              @skulpure thanx for the quick response!

              Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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              • crystalhorizon
                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                When hovering over the string connection between the new movie player (vid-gpu, performance mode) and the texture projector and dont see the little thumbnail (where the resolution is shown) as in the previous versions.

                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                  I think that needs to be added - its not been in any of my beta's.

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                  • jorisw
                    jorisw last edited by

                    Ok have paid upgrade to our 10 license seat... waiting for confirmation. Hope to start experimenting today!

                    Media and Performance LAB (MAPLAB) | http://www.maplab.nl

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                    • crystalhorizon
                      crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                      Is there a vid-gpu Video In Watcher or do I have to use a Video to Texture Actor?

                      Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                      • mark
                        mark last edited by

                        Nope, adding a vid-gpu actor is on the list. For now, you'll need the video to texture.

                        Best Wishes,
                        Mark

                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                        • crystalhorizon
                          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                          Ok, thank you for the quick response

                          All the best,
                          Alex

                          Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                          • dbini
                            dbini last edited by

                            although i'm excited to get my hands on Izzy2, i've got a few dates left on a tour where everything is built in Izzy1, so i'll have to wait until December before upgrading. still enjoying reading about everyone's experiences with 2 and looking forward to joining in later in the year.....

                            John Collingswood
                            taikabox.com
                            2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                            plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                            • ?
                              A Former User last edited by

                              Finally got round to really testing 2.0b in a practical setting today: mapping setup test with edge blend with 4 short throw projectors, 3 being fed by a triplehead. I didn't have tons of time to dig really deep but there were a couple of things which might be improving the already fantastic workflow.

                              1\. when in stage edit mode, it'd be great if there were a keyboard shortcut to switch between inputs (maybe there is, though, and I just didn't look/try hard enough). Now I just went back and forth with the mouse between the desktop of the macbook to select stage 1, live adjust it with the mouse, go back to the desktop, select stage 2, drag the mouse over to stage 2 etc etc.
                              2\. again; maybe it's there and I just plain missed it (so much to discover with the new interface and so little time in a day) but a "reset" of the mapping parameters would be fantastic. It's no real hassle to zero everything out manually, but a reset would be cool.
                              *applause* for the team, well well well done all!  I'll hang on to  my Madmapper and Blendy licenses for a bit longer, but I think in the foreseeable future they will be shelved. Having Izzy run all that stuff is just plain great instead of switching between apps. I haven't even gotten around to testing videos, looking forward to that
                              cheers!
                              Bart
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                              • mark
                                mark last edited by

                                Dear @BartvanG,

                                Thanks for the report; I look forward to hearing more about how you get on with the new system, but I'm glad it's going well initially
                                If you submit these feature requests (please be as clear and detailed as possible) we'll do our best to roll them into a future version.
                                All the Best,
                                Mark

                                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                • M
                                  Mowgli last edited by

                                  @Mark

                                  You seem to be referring to a Movie Player with mutable output, but I can only find the Classic, Movie player Direct and Movie player VR. I'm running the 2.0.0b2 on a windows 7 machine.
                                  Other than this confusion I'm thrilled with all the new mapping possibilities.
                                  Greetings,
                                  Job
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                                  • DusX
                                    DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                                    @Mowgli

                                    Can you tell me where you saw the reference to the mutable player? This is in fact something that is currently Mac only. On PC we have the Classic and Texture Players for vid-cpu and vid-gpu respectively.
                                    I will update the documentation if you can point me in the right direction.
                                    Cheers
                                    Ryan

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                                      Mowgli last edited by

                                      @DusX

                                      I saw it in the Quick start release note pdf. Page 3 explains the concept and page 4 goes deeper into the differences between the gpu and cpu video streams, talking about Mac OS and Windows both.
                                      Thanks for the explanation that it's Mac only, I'll go back to mapping everything onto everything now.
                                      Job
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                                      • mark
                                        mark last edited by

                                        Dear @Mowgli,

                                        We're in a transition phase, and since Windows does not have AVFoundation, it doesn't really need the new movie player. However, I will fully admit all these different players and formats are confusing. We're going to get that cleaned up before the final release. But let me copy and paste something I just added to the knowledge base:

                                        Important Note for Windows Users: The new movie player is coming soon to Windows. In the meantime, you’ll be using what we’re now calling the “Classic” Movie Player. Even though it might seem like your not getting a performance boost with the “Classic” version,  rest assured that if you play a WMV or AVI movie with the Classic Movie Player, it will be played by DirectShow for best performance.

                                        You can read the rest of this useful article -- which is improved from the original Quick Start -- here:

                                        http://troikatronix.com/izzy20-playback/

                                        Hopefully all of that will make things a bit more clear!

                                        Thanks for the patience,
                                        Mark

                                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                          gavspav Beta Silver last edited by

                                          Sorry for being thick but what does mutable player mean?

                                          They all have volume don't they?

                                          http://www.digitalfunfair.co.uk I'm using M1 MBP 14" mostly but sometimes use older Mac & Windows machines.

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                                            fifou last edited by

                                            Mutable like something capable of changing.. (mutation)

                                            MacBookPro 15' 2012 - QuadCore i7 @ 2,66GHz - 16GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024Mo VRAM - 2 Internal SATA SSD Hard Drives - OSX10.13.6 - Isadora 3.0.7

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