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    • crystalhorizon
      crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

      Is there a vid-gpu Video In Watcher or do I have to use a Video to Texture Actor?

      Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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      • mark
        mark last edited by

        Nope, adding a vid-gpu actor is on the list. For now, you'll need the video to texture.

        Best Wishes,
        Mark

        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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        • crystalhorizon
          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

          Ok, thank you for the quick response

          All the best,
          Alex

          Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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          • dbini
            dbini last edited by

            although i'm excited to get my hands on Izzy2, i've got a few dates left on a tour where everything is built in Izzy1, so i'll have to wait until December before upgrading. still enjoying reading about everyone's experiences with 2 and looking forward to joining in later in the year.....

            John Collingswood
            taikabox.com
            2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
            plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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            • ?
              A Former User last edited by

              Finally got round to really testing 2.0b in a practical setting today: mapping setup test with edge blend with 4 short throw projectors, 3 being fed by a triplehead. I didn't have tons of time to dig really deep but there were a couple of things which might be improving the already fantastic workflow.

              1\. when in stage edit mode, it'd be great if there were a keyboard shortcut to switch between inputs (maybe there is, though, and I just didn't look/try hard enough). Now I just went back and forth with the mouse between the desktop of the macbook to select stage 1, live adjust it with the mouse, go back to the desktop, select stage 2, drag the mouse over to stage 2 etc etc.
              2\. again; maybe it's there and I just plain missed it (so much to discover with the new interface and so little time in a day) but a "reset" of the mapping parameters would be fantastic. It's no real hassle to zero everything out manually, but a reset would be cool.
              *applause* for the team, well well well done all!  I'll hang on to  my Madmapper and Blendy licenses for a bit longer, but I think in the foreseeable future they will be shelved. Having Izzy run all that stuff is just plain great instead of switching between apps. I haven't even gotten around to testing videos, looking forward to that
              cheers!
              Bart
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              • mark
                mark last edited by

                Dear @BartvanG,

                Thanks for the report; I look forward to hearing more about how you get on with the new system, but I'm glad it's going well initially
                If you submit these feature requests (please be as clear and detailed as possible) we'll do our best to roll them into a future version.
                All the Best,
                Mark

                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                • M
                  Mowgli last edited by

                  @Mark

                  You seem to be referring to a Movie Player with mutable output, but I can only find the Classic, Movie player Direct and Movie player VR. I'm running the 2.0.0b2 on a windows 7 machine.
                  Other than this confusion I'm thrilled with all the new mapping possibilities.
                  Greetings,
                  Job
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                  • DusX
                    DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                    @Mowgli

                    Can you tell me where you saw the reference to the mutable player? This is in fact something that is currently Mac only. On PC we have the Classic and Texture Players for vid-cpu and vid-gpu respectively.
                    I will update the documentation if you can point me in the right direction.
                    Cheers
                    Ryan

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                      Mowgli last edited by

                      @DusX

                      I saw it in the Quick start release note pdf. Page 3 explains the concept and page 4 goes deeper into the differences between the gpu and cpu video streams, talking about Mac OS and Windows both.
                      Thanks for the explanation that it's Mac only, I'll go back to mapping everything onto everything now.
                      Job
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                      • mark
                        mark last edited by

                        Dear @Mowgli,

                        We're in a transition phase, and since Windows does not have AVFoundation, it doesn't really need the new movie player. However, I will fully admit all these different players and formats are confusing. We're going to get that cleaned up before the final release. But let me copy and paste something I just added to the knowledge base:

                        Important Note for Windows Users: The new movie player is coming soon to Windows. In the meantime, you’ll be using what we’re now calling the “Classic” Movie Player. Even though it might seem like your not getting a performance boost with the “Classic” version,  rest assured that if you play a WMV or AVI movie with the Classic Movie Player, it will be played by DirectShow for best performance.

                        You can read the rest of this useful article -- which is improved from the original Quick Start -- here:

                        http://troikatronix.com/izzy20-playback/

                        Hopefully all of that will make things a bit more clear!

                        Thanks for the patience,
                        Mark

                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                        • G
                          gavspav Beta Silver last edited by

                          Sorry for being thick but what does mutable player mean?

                          They all have volume don't they?

                          http://www.digitalfunfair.co.uk I'm using M1 MBP 14" mostly but sometimes use older Mac & Windows machines.

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                            fifou last edited by

                            Mutable like something capable of changing.. (mutation)

                            MacBookPro 15' 2012 - QuadCore i7 @ 2,66GHz - 16GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024Mo VRAM - 2 Internal SATA SSD Hard Drives - OSX10.13.6 - Isadora 3.0.7

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                            • mark
                              mark last edited by

                              Dear @gavspan,

                              Some Isadora inputs or outputs are "mutable" -- meaning they can "mutate" to match the input or output to which they are connected -- think for example of the Gate actor, which has these kinds of inputs and outputs.
                              The new Movie Player does has a mutable video output providing video outputs in the vid-gpu, vid-cpu, or vid-ci formats (formerly known as texture, video and image) depending on the input to which it is connected. Hook it up to a Texture Projector, and it's vid-gpu. Hook it up to Eyes++ and it becomes vid-cpu. We'll be making more actors operate like this, so that we'll eventually be able to reduce the number of actors which are basically duplicates except for the video format.
                              Hope that explains things. (Also, you should read the document: [http://troikatronix.com/izzy20-playback/](http://troikatronix.com/izzy20-playback/) -- it make a lot of stuff that's happening with video in 2.0 clear.)
                              Best,
                              Mark

                              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                              • crystalhorizon
                                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                When I double click for IzzyMap, the window opens behind the project. It wasnt like that before. So I changed some setting, or something else happened. Any ideas how to change that it appears in front? cc6402-screenshot-2014-09-01-13.18.50.png

                                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                • mark
                                  mark last edited by

                                  Latest version of Isadora with many fixes has just been posted.
                                  http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/discussion/1497/isadora-2-0-0b4-is-available
                                  Best Wishes,
                                  Mark

                                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                  • crystalhorizon
                                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                    Great! Solved the problem with the window.

                                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                    • vanakaru
                                      vanakaru last edited by

                                      @Mark The new b4 is missing all new actors of v.2. When I open my project made with b2 it reports MoviePlayer and TextureProjector missing. Did you upload the right file?

                                      MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                                      • crystalhorizon
                                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                        I have the Texture Projector in the new b4. Strange

                                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                        • vanakaru
                                          vanakaru last edited by

                                          I found the reason. When I start new beta it starts in Classic theme. But when trying to switch to Modern I am taken to upgrade(purchase) information page. Beta2 worked just fine before installing b4. And now b2 is in Classic only too. Like I have lost the upgrade information.

                                          MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                                          • mark
                                            mark last edited by

                                            Hmmmm.. @vanakaru, that is very strange. Try re-registering. If you lose a registration, I'll fix it for you.

                                            Best Wishes,
                                            Mark

                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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