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    • crystalhorizon
      crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

      When hovering over the string connection between the new movie player (vid-gpu, performance mode) and the texture projector and dont see the little thumbnail (where the resolution is shown) as in the previous versions.

      Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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      • Skulpture
        Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

        I think that needs to be added - its not been in any of my beta's.

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        • jorisw
          jorisw last edited by

          Ok have paid upgrade to our 10 license seat... waiting for confirmation. Hope to start experimenting today!

          Media and Performance LAB (MAPLAB) | http://www.maplab.nl

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          • crystalhorizon
            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

            Is there a vid-gpu Video In Watcher or do I have to use a Video to Texture Actor?

            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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            • mark
              mark last edited by

              Nope, adding a vid-gpu actor is on the list. For now, you'll need the video to texture.

              Best Wishes,
              Mark

              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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              • crystalhorizon
                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                Ok, thank you for the quick response

                All the best,
                Alex

                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                • dbini
                  dbini last edited by

                  although i'm excited to get my hands on Izzy2, i've got a few dates left on a tour where everything is built in Izzy1, so i'll have to wait until December before upgrading. still enjoying reading about everyone's experiences with 2 and looking forward to joining in later in the year.....

                  John Collingswood
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                  2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX15.3.2 16GB
                  plus an old iMac and assorted Mac Minis for installations

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                  • ?
                    A Former User last edited by

                    Finally got round to really testing 2.0b in a practical setting today: mapping setup test with edge blend with 4 short throw projectors, 3 being fed by a triplehead. I didn't have tons of time to dig really deep but there were a couple of things which might be improving the already fantastic workflow.

                    1\. when in stage edit mode, it'd be great if there were a keyboard shortcut to switch between inputs (maybe there is, though, and I just didn't look/try hard enough). Now I just went back and forth with the mouse between the desktop of the macbook to select stage 1, live adjust it with the mouse, go back to the desktop, select stage 2, drag the mouse over to stage 2 etc etc.
                    2\. again; maybe it's there and I just plain missed it (so much to discover with the new interface and so little time in a day) but a "reset" of the mapping parameters would be fantastic. It's no real hassle to zero everything out manually, but a reset would be cool.
                    *applause* for the team, well well well done all!  I'll hang on to  my Madmapper and Blendy licenses for a bit longer, but I think in the foreseeable future they will be shelved. Having Izzy run all that stuff is just plain great instead of switching between apps. I haven't even gotten around to testing videos, looking forward to that
                    cheers!
                    Bart
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                    • mark
                      mark last edited by

                      Dear @BartvanG,

                      Thanks for the report; I look forward to hearing more about how you get on with the new system, but I'm glad it's going well initially
                      If you submit these feature requests (please be as clear and detailed as possible) we'll do our best to roll them into a future version.
                      All the Best,
                      Mark

                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                      • M
                        Mowgli last edited by

                        @Mark

                        You seem to be referring to a Movie Player with mutable output, but I can only find the Classic, Movie player Direct and Movie player VR. I'm running the 2.0.0b2 on a windows 7 machine.
                        Other than this confusion I'm thrilled with all the new mapping possibilities.
                        Greetings,
                        Job
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                        • DusX
                          DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                          @Mowgli

                          Can you tell me where you saw the reference to the mutable player? This is in fact something that is currently Mac only. On PC we have the Classic and Texture Players for vid-cpu and vid-gpu respectively.
                          I will update the documentation if you can point me in the right direction.
                          Cheers
                          Ryan

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                            Mowgli last edited by

                            @DusX

                            I saw it in the Quick start release note pdf. Page 3 explains the concept and page 4 goes deeper into the differences between the gpu and cpu video streams, talking about Mac OS and Windows both.
                            Thanks for the explanation that it's Mac only, I'll go back to mapping everything onto everything now.
                            Job
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                            • mark
                              mark last edited by

                              Dear @Mowgli,

                              We're in a transition phase, and since Windows does not have AVFoundation, it doesn't really need the new movie player. However, I will fully admit all these different players and formats are confusing. We're going to get that cleaned up before the final release. But let me copy and paste something I just added to the knowledge base:

                              Important Note for Windows Users: The new movie player is coming soon to Windows. In the meantime, you’ll be using what we’re now calling the “Classic” Movie Player. Even though it might seem like your not getting a performance boost with the “Classic” version,  rest assured that if you play a WMV or AVI movie with the Classic Movie Player, it will be played by DirectShow for best performance.

                              You can read the rest of this useful article -- which is improved from the original Quick Start -- here:

                              http://troikatronix.com/izzy20-playback/

                              Hopefully all of that will make things a bit more clear!

                              Thanks for the patience,
                              Mark

                              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                gavspav Beta Silver last edited by

                                Sorry for being thick but what does mutable player mean?

                                They all have volume don't they?

                                http://www.digitalfunfair.co.uk I'm using M1 MBP 14" mostly but sometimes use older Mac & Windows machines.

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                                  fifou last edited by

                                  Mutable like something capable of changing.. (mutation)

                                  MacBookPro 15' 2012 - QuadCore i7 @ 2,66GHz - 16GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024Mo VRAM - 2 Internal SATA SSD Hard Drives - OSX10.13.6 - Isadora 3.0.7

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                                  • mark
                                    mark last edited by

                                    Dear @gavspan,

                                    Some Isadora inputs or outputs are "mutable" -- meaning they can "mutate" to match the input or output to which they are connected -- think for example of the Gate actor, which has these kinds of inputs and outputs.
                                    The new Movie Player does has a mutable video output providing video outputs in the vid-gpu, vid-cpu, or vid-ci formats (formerly known as texture, video and image) depending on the input to which it is connected. Hook it up to a Texture Projector, and it's vid-gpu. Hook it up to Eyes++ and it becomes vid-cpu. We'll be making more actors operate like this, so that we'll eventually be able to reduce the number of actors which are basically duplicates except for the video format.
                                    Hope that explains things. (Also, you should read the document: [http://troikatronix.com/izzy20-playback/](http://troikatronix.com/izzy20-playback/) -- it make a lot of stuff that's happening with video in 2.0 clear.)
                                    Best,
                                    Mark

                                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                    • crystalhorizon
                                      crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                      When I double click for IzzyMap, the window opens behind the project. It wasnt like that before. So I changed some setting, or something else happened. Any ideas how to change that it appears in front? cc6402-screenshot-2014-09-01-13.18.50.png

                                      Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                      • mark
                                        mark last edited by

                                        Latest version of Isadora with many fixes has just been posted.
                                        http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/discussion/1497/isadora-2-0-0b4-is-available
                                        Best Wishes,
                                        Mark

                                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                        • crystalhorizon
                                          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                          Great! Solved the problem with the window.

                                          Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                          • vanakaru
                                            vanakaru last edited by

                                            @Mark The new b4 is missing all new actors of v.2. When I open my project made with b2 it reports MoviePlayer and TextureProjector missing. Did you upload the right file?

                                            MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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