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    • crystalhorizon
      crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

      @particlep yeah the 3 inputs did the trick! Great thank you so much.

      I cant get no syphon from eMotion in Isadora. Via Syphoner it works but I have to cut the top. So scaling to a performer could be more tricky.
      But at this moment the next factor is the stability, if its reliable to use in a performance.
      Thank you again!
      All the best,
      Alex

      Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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      • particlep
        particlep last edited by

        @feinsinn great to hear that the inputs are good.

        i struggled with syphon from emotion to isadora too.
        i'll be interested to hear about what you experience with emotion with regard to stability and what direction your artistic decisions take as a result.

        isadora v3.0.7
        mbp 2.6ghz i7
        mac osx 10.12.6
        dyslexic.

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        • m_theater
          m_theater last edited by

          @feinsinn,

          to activate the syphon output
          you have to go into your prefs and give it a resolution
          the default entry isn't working
          then you have to activate the Framebuffer (debug -> use fbo)
          great that the 3 float trick worked for you
          best
          clemens

          cec4a2-screen-shot-2014-10-09-at-09.46.43.png

          avk4.net

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          • crystalhorizon
            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

            @m_theater thank you for the hint, syphon works now, great!

            I´m experience always a crash when clearing a layer. 

            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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            • m_theater
              m_theater last edited by

              @feinsinn this bothered us the whole last week but we solved this yesterday by a script with a "fadeout + reset" cue

              it is strange we thought clearing a layer just means the particle are swopped but and reset is killing all infos but the reverse is true
              …

              avk4.net

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              • particlep
                particlep last edited by

                i've added another video today in answer to :

                Is there a way to use osc to continuously generate particles?
                http://youtu.be/p8kF51fJjYA

                isadora v3.0.7
                mbp 2.6ghz i7
                mac osx 10.12.6
                dyslexic.

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                • Skulpture
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                  @particlep your youtube videos for eMotion are brill thanks!! 

                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                  RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                  RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                  RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                  • crystalhorizon
                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                    @particlep another fan here of your tutorials!!

                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                    • particlep
                      particlep last edited by

                      :) thanks guys :)

                      isadora v3.0.7
                      mbp 2.6ghz i7
                      mac osx 10.12.6
                      dyslexic.

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                      • crystalhorizon
                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                        Just wanted to share a little clip of our last rehearsal:
                        Its our cleaning robot tracked by lasers
                        Video comes from eMotion, Motion Brush Shake
                        I get their Tuio messages into my system via Osculator. Then I route it into Isadora and send it to eMotion. Then via Syphon back to Isadora.
                        Great applause to @particlep for his great tutorials. Wouldnt have managed to do it without them.
                        Works also great with humans, not only cleaning robots ;-)

                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                        • Skulpture
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                          Bloody Hell Alex this is amazing!

                          reminds me very much of _**Chunky Move**_ stuff...
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqF2ZgpqI0U

                          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                          RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                          RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                          RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                          • crystalhorizon
                            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                            Hej Graham, You made my day!! Because of Chunky move I started to spent my energy on that interactive nerd stuff, haha!

                            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                            • particlep
                              particlep last edited by

                              feinsinn thank you for your applause.  :)

                              isadora v3.0.7
                              mbp 2.6ghz i7
                              mac osx 10.12.6
                              dyslexic.

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                              • L
                                lazandre last edited by

                                @particlep
                                I'm from the Philippines. I use Isadora for interactive projections for dance ballet shows.I discovered eMotion in this forum and followed tutorials of particlep. Tuio, OSC, Wii functions work! Great Thanks to particlep for sharing the tutorials. My only problem now is how to properly syphon eMotion. As suggested by m_theater, I've changed the resolution and activated the Frambuffer. Render window can now syphon but it displays a quad image instead. Please see attached images below. On the other hand, I tried working with the old version of eMotion in an Imac and syphon works perfectly. Here are the two scenarios: Scenario 1. eMotion: Latest 0.7.1 installed in a MacBook Pro Retina with OSX 10.9.2. Syphon Status: to activate syphon, I have to click "use FBO" but syphon displays a quad image. Additional Info: When I tried using a demo version of Syphoner by SIGMAMIX, Syphoner reads the eMotion render window without FBO being activated. But I wouldn't want to go this route. Scenario 2. eMotion: 0.6.9. installed in an iMac with OS X 10.6.8. Syphon Status: working, no need to enable anything in eMotion. Syphon to and from Madmapper, Modul8, and Isadora working perfectly. ---- I hope someone can help me figure out how to make syphon work with eMotion 0.7.1 66169f-syphon-debug-checked.tiff 20ac34-fbo-unchecked.tiff

                                lazandre cawagas

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                                • particlep
                                  particlep last edited by

                                  @lazandre you're welcome. i figured by sharing we could collectively learn more.

                                  well done for keeping version 0.6.9 working.
                                  right now i have no answers for you. sorry that sucks i know, however my approach has always been i don;t know how emotion is meant to work so i'll find out what i can do with it.
                                  i have always suspected that there are parts of emotion that are not fully implemented in the publicly released versions but still appear within it.  i can share with you that many times i've shut emotion down and walked way from it because it just wasn't being very useful.  
                                  sometime later i see something that answers the problem i had when i walked away ,,, and i go back and try again.
                                  i'm not sure what else i can add right now. sorry.

                                  isadora v3.0.7
                                  mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                  mac osx 10.12.6
                                  dyslexic.

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                                  • Bill Cottman
                                    Bill Cottman last edited by

                                    Very interesting comments here. I've been aware of eMotion for months but could not get a reliable download link. Yesterday it downloaded completely but I have not opened it yet. All these comments are giving me the correct frame of mind I need to approach eMotion. Thanks.

                                    http://www.BillCottman.com : Isadora3.0.8f09 with MBP OS X 10.11.6 in Minneapolis, MN

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                                    • L
                                      lazandre last edited by

                                      thanks particlep and vanderzee. particlep, your tutorials are really a great starting point for me to understand emotion. i was at a lost till i saw the tutorials.

                                      i'd also like to share some of my observations:

                                      1. Activate and deactivate "Map Wacom to current layer” item if you are not using wacom.  (At first anything I draw with pen or particle tool do not show up in the render window or the drawings are pulled by gravity on the left border of the render window. But when I deactivated the Map Wacom to current layer item, everything went well.

                                      2. Particles have a limit. You can only draw up to 99,999 particles. Inspector menu displays no. of pixels/objects of the current layer.

                                      3. Syphon can be activated by clicking “use FBO”. But for version 0.7.1, you’ll get a quad display.
                                      You can drag png, jpeg, movie files into the layers thru the “Scene” items in “Tools” to have a textured or movie background.  You can then scale, move, rotate the background in the Layer Geometry in Scene Options or click on the scene and use your trackpad. Scaling the picture/movie background will give you an option to alter the collisions, either with the scene or with the layer you just altered. (Because syphon is not functioning properly, the image or movie in the layer is also in a quad format.)

                                      4.  The text tool does not work in 0.7.1.  I notice that in any layer i create using the Text tool it has an underlying black mask background that is similar to the quad display i mentioned in my previous comment.

                                      Will post some more since there's a limit in the number of characters i can type in this comment window.

                                      Still hoping someone can figure out how to make the syphon work properly in 0.7.1 :)

                                      lazandre cawagas

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                                      • smartalec
                                        smartalec last edited by

                                        Thanks so much particlep and lazandre!

                                        I've got newest build of eMotion up and running with TUIOpad thanks to your help and tutorials. 
                                        I am going to be composing music and producing a show for our local professional ballet company next year and hoping to integrate eMotion, motion capture, Isadora and Ableton Live.
                                        I've got some fun investigation and experimentation ahead of me! 

                                        www.smartalecproductions.com | MBP, i7, 16GB, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024 MB

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                                        • smartalec
                                          smartalec last edited by

                                          Hmmmm.

                                          My eMotion 0.7.1 suddenly throws a 'this version out of date' at startup and shuts down. Is this happening to anybody else?
                                          I got excited for a second thinking maybe there was an update but I am not seeing one anywhere.

                                          www.smartalecproductions.com | MBP, i7, 16GB, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024 MB

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                                          • particlep
                                            particlep last edited by

                                            i too have the date thing.  i've seen this before.  i tried downloading again and got the same out of date thing.

                                            [smartalec](/troikatronixforum/profile/7415/smartalec)  i've emailed the contact address re the out of date thing and put a link to this thread and the tutorial playlist i made last year and requested any information.
                                            i think in the short term we simply have to wait and see what they come back with or keep an eye on the website http://www.am-cb.net/emotion
                                            for any updates.
                                            sorry i can't offer any more at this time.

                                            isadora v3.0.7
                                            mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                            mac osx 10.12.6
                                            dyslexic.

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