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    • particlep
      particlep last edited by

      just adding an e makes for quite a difference.  .... links for both.

      motion : https://www.apple.com/uk/final-cut-pro/motion/
      emotion :  http://www.am-cb.net/emotion/
      the apple link will take you to a video special effect package.
      the link at am-cg dot net will take you to an experimental package in which one can generate visuals in real time based on parameters and live inputs.
      hopes this helps.

      isadora v3.0.7
      mbp 2.6ghz i7
      mac osx 10.12.6
      dyslexic.

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      • crystalhorizon
        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

        @particlep yesterdas we have been in the Ars Electronica center in Linz/Austria. There they have a laser tracking system for their 16meter/9 meter floor. For our next performance in Mid November we can use 8 HD projectors for the wall and floor. So I can get Tuio/osc messages from their tracking system. The scaling is from 0 to 1. So your tutorial comes now really handy to test such kind if setup.

        So I tried all your steps:
        Tuio Pad into Osculator works fine
        Osculator to Isadora works fine
        In eMotion I cannot click into message type and select anything (see screenshot)
        There is also no plus button as in the send window.
        For the OSCtransmit actor I choose the same settings in your tutorial, but I dont understand where do I get what to fill out
         in address.
        Havent opened eMotion for a while, so it wanted to update
        Maybe I can route Tuio directly into eMotion.
        @Mark any news about Tuio implementation in the new Isadora?

        4e7718-screenshot-2014-10-07-09.36.56.png cd9208-screenshot-2014-10-07-09.41.09.png

        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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        • particlep
          particlep last edited by

          @feinsinn your placing at linz sounds rather wonderful :)  really looking forward to what you make there.

          thank you for your post, so good to know that the tutorials do help.  i too haven't picked up emotion for a while. i think it's something about emotion that the relationship with it becomes a little love hate !
          so in this time of love ... i notice from your screen shots that you have no patch cord to the transmit of the osc transmit actor. this will be why you are not see in anything in the emotion osc window.  try connecting the trigger output from one of your osc listener actors to the transmit of the osc transmit actor.
          i think this will cause all things to happen.
          please please do let me know how you get on. xx

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          • crystalhorizon
            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

            @particlep thank you for your help! The project is something I did in february this year, you can have a look at this forum post: http://troikatronix.com/community/#/discussion/1064

            You were completely right: I forgot about the transmit string, thanx for that one! The next message I get that I have a wrong OSCtype, see screenshot

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            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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            • m_theater
              m_theater last edited by

              @feinsinn

              emotion does have a couple of drawbacks regarding osc connectivity
              in our tests the particle were generated the whole time rather then when we sended a message while using the osc routing
              what we are trying now is to use tuio as the interface for particle generation and osc to modify the layer intensity, scripts etc.
              concerning your message type problem
              the current tool is a float,float,float type 
              see the attached image
              we hope that we can share our structure soon but it is to messy yet …
              greetings from berlin
              o+c.

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              avk4.net

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              • particlep
                particlep last edited by

                in returning to emotion this afternoon, i've had to update my version, even though the version i had was the latest version from the website.

                as ever patience is needed when working with emotion.  
                i see emotion crashing when i have the incorrect number of inputs to the osc multi transmit actor.
                earlier this year the multi transmit had 3 input and it worked ok.  http://youtu.be/xGKtgnMA8is?t=43s
                i did find some inconsistency between motion brushes working with osc input. i cannot say with any conclusive evidence this to be correct.

                isadora v3.0.7
                mbp 2.6ghz i7
                mac osx 10.12.6
                dyslexic.

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                • crystalhorizon
                  crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                  @particlep yeah the 3 inputs did the trick! Great thank you so much.

                  I cant get no syphon from eMotion in Isadora. Via Syphoner it works but I have to cut the top. So scaling to a performer could be more tricky.
                  But at this moment the next factor is the stability, if its reliable to use in a performance.
                  Thank you again!
                  All the best,
                  Alex

                  Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                  • particlep
                    particlep last edited by

                    @feinsinn great to hear that the inputs are good.

                    i struggled with syphon from emotion to isadora too.
                    i'll be interested to hear about what you experience with emotion with regard to stability and what direction your artistic decisions take as a result.

                    isadora v3.0.7
                    mbp 2.6ghz i7
                    mac osx 10.12.6
                    dyslexic.

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                    • m_theater
                      m_theater last edited by

                      @feinsinn,

                      to activate the syphon output
                      you have to go into your prefs and give it a resolution
                      the default entry isn't working
                      then you have to activate the Framebuffer (debug -> use fbo)
                      great that the 3 float trick worked for you
                      best
                      clemens

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                      avk4.net

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                      • crystalhorizon
                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                        @m_theater thank you for the hint, syphon works now, great!

                        I´m experience always a crash when clearing a layer. 

                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                        • m_theater
                          m_theater last edited by

                          @feinsinn this bothered us the whole last week but we solved this yesterday by a script with a "fadeout + reset" cue

                          it is strange we thought clearing a layer just means the particle are swopped but and reset is killing all infos but the reverse is true
                          …

                          avk4.net

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                          • particlep
                            particlep last edited by

                            i've added another video today in answer to :

                            Is there a way to use osc to continuously generate particles?
                            http://youtu.be/p8kF51fJjYA

                            isadora v3.0.7
                            mbp 2.6ghz i7
                            mac osx 10.12.6
                            dyslexic.

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                            • Skulpture
                              Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                              @particlep your youtube videos for eMotion are brill thanks!! 

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                              RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                              RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                              • crystalhorizon
                                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                @particlep another fan here of your tutorials!!

                                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                • particlep
                                  particlep last edited by

                                  :) thanks guys :)

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                                  • crystalhorizon
                                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                    Just wanted to share a little clip of our last rehearsal:
                                    Its our cleaning robot tracked by lasers
                                    Video comes from eMotion, Motion Brush Shake
                                    I get their Tuio messages into my system via Osculator. Then I route it into Isadora and send it to eMotion. Then via Syphon back to Isadora.
                                    Great applause to @particlep for his great tutorials. Wouldnt have managed to do it without them.
                                    Works also great with humans, not only cleaning robots ;-)

                                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                    • Skulpture
                                      Skulpture Izzy Guru last edited by

                                      Bloody Hell Alex this is amazing!

                                      reminds me very much of _**Chunky Move**_ stuff...
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqF2ZgpqI0U

                                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                      RIG 1: Custom-built PC: Windows 11. Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX3080, 32G DDR5 RAM. 2 x m.2.
                                      RIG 2: Laptop Dell G15: Windows 11, Intel i9 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16G RAM (DDR5), 2 x NVME M.2 SSD.
                                      RIG 3: Apple Laptop: rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                      • crystalhorizon
                                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum last edited by

                                        Hej Graham, You made my day!! Because of Chunky move I started to spent my energy on that interactive nerd stuff, haha!

                                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                        • particlep
                                          particlep last edited by

                                          feinsinn thank you for your applause.  :)

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                                          • L
                                            lazandre last edited by

                                            @particlep
                                            I'm from the Philippines. I use Isadora for interactive projections for dance ballet shows.I discovered eMotion in this forum and followed tutorials of particlep. Tuio, OSC, Wii functions work! Great Thanks to particlep for sharing the tutorials. My only problem now is how to properly syphon eMotion. As suggested by m_theater, I've changed the resolution and activated the Frambuffer. Render window can now syphon but it displays a quad image instead. Please see attached images below. On the other hand, I tried working with the old version of eMotion in an Imac and syphon works perfectly. Here are the two scenarios: Scenario 1. eMotion: Latest 0.7.1 installed in a MacBook Pro Retina with OSX 10.9.2. Syphon Status: to activate syphon, I have to click "use FBO" but syphon displays a quad image. Additional Info: When I tried using a demo version of Syphoner by SIGMAMIX, Syphoner reads the eMotion render window without FBO being activated. But I wouldn't want to go this route. Scenario 2. eMotion: 0.6.9. installed in an iMac with OS X 10.6.8. Syphon Status: working, no need to enable anything in eMotion. Syphon to and from Madmapper, Modul8, and Isadora working perfectly. ---- I hope someone can help me figure out how to make syphon work with eMotion 0.7.1 66169f-syphon-debug-checked.tiff 20ac34-fbo-unchecked.tiff

                                            lazandre cawagas

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