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    How to manipulate video with sound in Izzy?

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    • J
      JetJaguar last edited by

      Yes, great.  I see the the Sound Frequency Watcher covers only one frequency.  I would set up multiples to cover different ranges?

      What about the movie player with the expanded frequency bands? Would that work?  I cannot see an actual hz/khz range on any of the bands though.  Just MIN and MAX.  

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      • jhoepffner
        jhoepffner last edited by

        – you need one frequency watcher for each frequency

        – the movie player works with recorded sound. The audible spectrum is divided in band, no other refinement.
        For more, you have to go for max or PD, all the tools are available here, then it's easy to send midi or OSC values to Isadora.

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        • leben
          leben last edited by

          @joeydrums

          this plugin is useful to give a visual reference to what the frequencies are doing, and to isolate the range and then set up a frequency watcher for each level
          http://www.voxengo.com/product/span/

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          • J
            JetJaguar last edited by

            I really enjoy this community. People are very helpful and knowledgeable.  Thanks.  I'm checking out the plug in leben.  I flit in and out of using Isadora so I'm always learning.

            @jhoepffner
            I'm a bit familiar with both Max and PD but never sent them to Isadora.  How dow I pull in a patch I made in one of them into Isadora via OSC or midi. Midi I understand, OSC is a bit more of a mystery.
            Also are you suggesting building a multi band frequency watcher in PD or Max.  Is that what in your conception of this you would use those apps for?  Curious you thoughts.

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            • J
              JetJaguar last edited by

              @leben

              Where would you insert Voxengo in the signal flow within Isadora?  It is a live capture. Just use Sound Input actor _before_ Sound Frequency Watcher? Problem is live input is coming through channel 1\.  That is not a choice in Sound input but my built in microphone (which is what live input is set to does come up within Sound input).  Problem is there is no "out" for the audio on Sound input.  Must be my signal flow is wrong?
              AND how do I "see" the Voxengo's UI in Isadora?
              Finally to ALL.  My signal flow currently is:
               Live Input > Sound Frequency watcher.  Movie player > effect (bloom) > Projector.  
              Trigger or/ energy out of Sound Frequency Watcher (still playing with this one) going to the effect (bloom) input called "floor" parameter.  
              This all works fine.  BUT I want that same singular video to have multiple "effects" getting manipulated by the multiple Sound Frequency Watchers isolating different parts of my frequency spectrum.
              Thanks for leben and all in advance!

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              • jhoepffner
                jhoepffner last edited by

                Hello,
                I made a quick sample of frequency analysis in Max (coming from a synth…), a 16 band analyser sending 16 OSC signal to Isadora doing a color mix.
                Pictures and files are here.
                91f6df-capture-decran-2016-02-01-a-23.15.08.png 21c8e4-capture-decran-2016-02-01-a-23.15.30.png 0e1687-testmaxosc.zip

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                MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
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                • J
                  JetJaguar last edited by

                  Forum.  I have another question.  Has anyone every used Sound Frequency Watcher to monitor a pre recorded and looping audio file?

                  It seems SFW only works with Live input?

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                  • Michel
                    Michel Izzy Guru last edited by

                    @joejdrums

                    You could use something like Soundflower or SoundSyphon to route the sound of the movie back into Isadora.

                    Best Michel

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                    • J
                      JetJaguar last edited by

                      That is a good idea.  I'll check it out.

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                      • DusX
                        DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                        I have been experimenting with using Imitone ( https://imitone.com/ )

                        It converts sound to midi.. lots of interesting potential.

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                        • leben
                          leben last edited by

                          oooh, looks interesting, cheers for this : )

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                          • leben
                            leben last edited by

                            @DusX

                            Will Izzy pick this up in the input ports of the midi set up, as it would any piece of midi hardware?

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                            • DusX
                              DusX Tech Staff last edited by

                              yes..  its just a midi source.

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                              • J
                                JetJaguar last edited by

                                Looks cool.  Thanks man

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                                • vanakaru
                                  vanakaru last edited by

                                  Meanwhile you can test existing audio to midi apps. Ones like WIDI has been around for some time. You can convert audio(singing into the mic) to midi in real time and play a synth accordingly.

                                  http://www.widisoft.com/english/mp3-midi-products.html
                                  Max/MSP can be set up as such as well
                                  https://youtu.be/BiEBN17ZnNI
                                  PD (PureData)
                                  http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/9816/audio-to-midi-in-pd

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                                  • leben
                                    leben last edited by

                                    @jhoepffner

                                    This Max patch looks interesting, I know nothing about max, I assume one would be able to tweak this patch so that is sends data from a live audio feed into izzy, instead of from a synth...
                                    Thank you : )

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                                    • vanakaru
                                      vanakaru last edited by

                                      Try WIDI it does it "out of the box". Just choose MIDI output "Isadora..."

                                       You can handcraft this with Isadora as well: Frequency Watcer for each note(usable voice range is about 2 octaves - 24 notes)

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                                      • J
                                        JetJaguar last edited by

                                        Thanks Vanakura.  I have looked into Imitone.  Very, very Beta.  Not too accurate as far as I can tell yet. I will look into the Max patch.

                                        There is one thing I'm trying to understand with the audio conversion to midi.  This is for a live situation? I think I understand the live signal flow.  
                                        Audio streams > gets converted to a binary code that Isadora reads and then can process via Sound Frequency Watcher.  
                                        Yes?  
                                        Also, Vanakura.  Would you happen to have have any patches you're able to pass along for Max or PD?  

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                                        • vanakaru
                                          vanakaru last edited by

                                          look, this may help you

                                           http://www.ernestomalaca.com/uncategorized/audio-trigger-a-midi-puredata-ableton-live/

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                                          • K
                                            Klawrence last edited by

                                            So is there not a way that voices speaking can be translated into numbers for parameter changes?

                                            Or something that takes the audio decibel level and uses that to change parameters?

                                            Thanks, Kedar

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